2021 AMG Mercedes F1 Team

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Confirmed 5 place grid penalty for Hamilton.

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AeroDynamic wrote:
12 Nov 2021, 16:18
RB and Max had the upper hand this year but there’s no denying Lewis and Mercedes could’ve denied them. But it was a combination of them not being good enough at the races they should’ve been strong and won at, and the conditions not going their way too many times, a rather big disparity to RB in that. Sometimes things just go more your way some seasons. F1 has so many variables, the stars need to align sometimes. Some things are out of your control. If somethings went more Mercedes way after the summer break it could’ve been theirs.
Why i disagree slightly is that if mercedes were ahead redbull would just push harder on upgrades and work Perez harder at spoiling Bottas and Lewis' race. Where Hamilton could have been ahead i see equally where Redbull could also have done better to fight back.
So far i think Mercedes made mostly strategic errors and may a few driver errors. The main errors were with strategy, but when you have the slower car, you pay more for risky decisions.
But all is not lost.. i still beleive Hamilton can be Champion this year. The driving gods are mysterious.
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Apparently, the ICE Lewis is taking is a new spec that Merc has been developing all season, which is why Bottas had been taking so many units.




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zibby43 wrote:
12 Nov 2021, 20:57
Apparently, the ICE Lewis is taking is a new spec that Merc has been developing all season, which is why Bottas had been taking so many units.

https://twitter.com/scarbstech/status/1 ... 53378?s=21

https://twitter.com/scarbstech/status/1 ... 65157?s=21
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5 place grid drop for the race on Sunday, or for the sprint tomorrow ? Cause they sounded like it's for the sprint tomorrow, in the post quali interview.

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It seems that here they retained HAM`s RW that both drivers were running at Mexico race, compared to RB which runs here a spoon RW for a better top speed ... nevertheless even on these conditions, HAM was 6km/h faster on top speed trap due to the new ICE ...
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Guys!

We I believe we are using STRAT 2 for the rest of the season!!


Only way that the extreme engine degradation can be explained. The engine will be junk after 1000km (after quatar)

This is likley the only way that Merc could bridge the gap in downforce. All or nothing!
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Shrieker wrote:
12 Nov 2021, 22:13
5 place grid drop for the race on Sunday, or for the sprint tomorrow ? Cause they sounded like it's for the sprint tomorrow, in the post quali interview.

I'm confused https://i.imgur.com/WdgibTQ.gif
It’s for the race, not the sprint.

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Shrieker wrote:
12 Nov 2021, 22:13
5 place grid drop for the race on Sunday, or for the sprint tomorrow ? Cause they sounded like it's for the sprint tomorrow, in the post quali interview.

I'm confused https://i.imgur.com/WdgibTQ.gif
It was a bit confusing when Hamilton said Verstappen has pole now but I think Lewis meant that Verstappen will probably finish sprint race on P2 and thereby gets pole due to his grid drop.

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Shrieker wrote:
12 Nov 2021, 22:13
5 place grid drop for the race on Sunday, or for the sprint tomorrow ? Cause they sounded like it's for the sprint tomorrow, in the post quali interview.

I'm confused https://i.imgur.com/WdgibTQ.gif
Don’t be. Ham is incredibly smart. So think from that perspective. He is already saying I will likely win the sprint qualy, Max 2 Bottas 3 and then Max will inherit Pole for the real race.

Ofcourse that was a downplay as Any race start had the potential for a crash, overtake etc.

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atanatizante wrote:
12 Nov 2021, 22:14
It seems that here they retained HAM`s RW that both drivers were running at Mexico race, compared to RB which runs here a spoon RW for a better top speed ... nevertheless even on these conditions, HAM was 6km/h faster on top speed trap due to the new ICE ...
Or, so it seems now, the new Ice is not as magical as it seemed but they opened the DRS too far. Let’s see what the verdict is.

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zibby43 wrote:
12 Nov 2021, 22:40
Shrieker wrote:
12 Nov 2021, 22:13
5 place grid drop for the race on Sunday, or for the sprint tomorrow ? Cause they sounded like it's for the sprint tomorrow, in the post quali interview.

I'm confused https://i.imgur.com/WdgibTQ.gif
It’s for the race, not the sprint.
Starting the sprint from the Pitlane now. DRS found to be illegal on Lewis' car.

Cheeky move by the engineers? Or genuine set-up error?
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Sieper wrote:
13 Nov 2021, 00:23
atanatizante wrote:
12 Nov 2021, 22:14
It seems that here they retained HAM`s RW that both drivers were running at Mexico race, compared to RB which runs here a spoon RW for a better top speed ... nevertheless even on these conditions, HAM was 6km/h faster on top speed trap due to the new ICE ...
Or, so it seems now, the new Ice is not as magical as it seemed but they opened the DRS too far. Let’s see what the verdict is.
A few mm on the DRS isn’t going to give 4 tenths. :lol:

In fact, as Scarbs pointed out, it can induce drag.

Regardless, if it’s out of spec, it’s out of spec. Unless Max did it when breaking the ISC.

Let’s see what the verdict is.

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zibby43 wrote:
12 Nov 2021, 20:57
Apparently, the ICE Lewis is taking is a new spec that Merc has been developing all season, which is why Bottas had been taking so many units.
iirc they can't introduce "new spec" ICE.