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I realize that, but that is true for all teams. The inclusion of 10% ethanol should necessitate an entire new design, unless I’m reading into “new” too deeply.saviour stivala wrote: ↑07 Jan 2022, 09:20The focus right now at least according to RBR top man is regaining the lost power compared to the power unit of last year by the use of the new fuel mandated for use this year.Hoffman900 wrote: ↑07 Jan 2022, 07:29Can we talk about the 2022 unit?
Apparently it's a new unit, what were the short comings of the 2021 iteration that need to be changed? I'm not seeing much, but I'm assuming it'll be focused around the combustion end of things.
Man, does that go off late. Almost appears to light off very close to TDC.
There are always prototypes. Sadly products are usually nowhere. (BTW your original link was older)ispano6 wrote: ↑07 Jan 2022, 05:33Prototype fluoride-ion battery prototypes already exist. They aren't in the "theoretical" stage, your bookmarks are dated and need some updating. Here's one for starters: https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Techno ... EV-battery
It requires cobalt, which is one of the problematic materials required for batteries and Japan is in the process of obtaining a supply from within it's territories. The projected commercial availability is early 2030s, and it may be used in non-commercial applications much sooner, be it F1/prototype racing, aviation, aerospace etc. You can go ahead and continue to carry your hopes in lithium all power to you. I'm just bringing to light what Honda is dabbing into, just like I was regarding their early research on carbon nano-tubes that actually was utilized in their F1 energy store. As a Honda fan I'm always intrigued by what is possible from their various efforts - its the power of dreams and even the sky isn't the limit. With their eVTOL and satellite launch vehicle initiatives, there's a lot of R&D that can be applied in various sectors. Plenty of time for it to be applied to the next F1 power unit formula.
It seems like there's a significant power deficit compared to a fresh Mercedes engine, judging by Brazil. So there's room for improvements. And seeing how 2021 went Mercedes is likely to seek out something strong as Honda's for the combustion chamber to prevent their PU from fading in power, and for extra reliability of course.Hoffman900 wrote: ↑07 Jan 2022, 07:29Can we talk about the 2022 unit?
Apparently it's a new unit, what were the short comings of the 2021 iteration that need to be changed? I'm not seeing much, but I'm assuming it'll be focused around the combustion end of things.
Not sure what you're getting at, but water isn't toxic, doesn't pollute.restless wrote: ↑06 Jan 2022, 18:24Would you volunteer to work mining lithium in Bolivia, Chile or China?mzso wrote: ↑06 Jan 2022, 17:38All of this is unfounded propaganda. (Except the "ethical" stuff, which no-one actually cares about.)PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑06 Jan 2022, 15:13Mining of the raw materials posion the environment just as much as oil if not more. Some mines are not ethicaly operated. Current batteries are extremely expensive to recycle. The Lithium is limited and in a few countries and will be another strained Geo-political resource in due time. Battery obseletion is an issue too, among other issues.
Wasting huge amounts of water in deserts, very ecology-friendly, green and modern...
Can you guys take this argument to another thread? It has nothing to do with Honda's PU
The combustion chamber is the strongest part of the entire system.mzso wrote: ↑07 Jan 2022, 18:55It seems like there's a significant power deficit compared to a fresh Mercedes engine, judging by Brazil. So there's room for improvements. And seeing how 2021 went Mercedes is likely to seek out something strong as Honda's for the combustion chamber to prevent their PU from fading in power, and for extra reliability of course.Hoffman900 wrote: ↑07 Jan 2022, 07:29Can we talk about the 2022 unit?
Apparently it's a new unit, what were the short comings of the 2021 iteration that need to be changed? I'm not seeing much, but I'm assuming it'll be focused around the combustion end of things.
Well, I can't say I have much of an understanding regarding this. But I remember the new material Honda is said to be using, and how they got extra power and better lifespan/reliability. So how and where did they use it?Hoffman900 wrote: ↑07 Jan 2022, 20:03The combustion chamber is the strongest part of the entire system.
Failure modes are the piston and rings, the latter being the most sensitive part in contact with pressure forces. The piston crown, but specifically the piston pin / pin bosses are the most under duress.
The failure mode for detonation in most engines is typically the rod bearings. The piston will eventually fail, but I've also seen a cracked main bearing cap in another engine from detonation alone.
Rapid combustion, as expressed by Honda's new combustion process will put more strain on all these parts.
On the cylinder walls.mzso wrote: ↑07 Jan 2022, 20:44Well, I can't say I have much of an understanding regarding this. But I remember the new material Honda is said to be using, and how they got extra power and better lifespan/reliability. So how and where did they use it?Hoffman900 wrote: ↑07 Jan 2022, 20:03The combustion chamber is the strongest part of the entire system.
Failure modes are the piston and rings, the latter being the most sensitive part in contact with pressure forces. The piston crown, but specifically the piston pin / pin bosses are the most under duress.
The failure mode for detonation in most engines is typically the rod bearings. The piston will eventually fail, but I've also seen a cracked main bearing cap in another engine from detonation alone.
Rapid combustion, as expressed by Honda's new combustion process will put more strain on all these parts.
Great find Kaizen.
gruntguru wrote: ↑08 Jan 2022, 02:39Great find Kaizen.
If you run through the second chamber video freezing frames as you go, the flame around the edge of the chamber appears before you see flame coming out of the jets. Either this ignition is completely spontaneous or perhaps a shock wave has emanated from the pre-chamber before the jets are seen.