Ryar wrote: ↑07 Feb 2022, 12:23You should stop driving the threads offtopic. This is not, "Let's prove Hamilton is Great... Again" thread. You take Max, Daniel and RB to Mercedes thread and you bring Hamilton to RB thread and derail them all. If points are relevant to the topic of the thread and maintain that boundary, then it's debatable.AeroDynamic wrote: ↑07 Feb 2022, 12:14I do feel it would be hollow if a driver who was unproven against the very best on the grid in the same car, ended up in a dominant car and won several titles. Unfortunately, Red Bull have been the best at doing this, starting with Vettel, and again, a rookie that didn’t get on top of Daniel enough and then Daniel’s best resume is beating Vettel.. Vettel was considered a great for the dominant titles, so initially this made Daniel shine on his CV.. but despite Vettel being younger than Hamilton, his image of being a sensational great has plummeted. Since Daniel left RBR so has his, after Norris dominated him in the McLaren (a normal team that develops cars equally to drivers) other teammates have proved Vettel and Ricciardo’s perceived greatness may have been more car than themselves.. and maybe more relative to who their teammates were at the time.Ryar wrote: ↑07 Feb 2022, 11:46I said this before and I say it again, I like your mind reading skills.
I would absolutely hate it if Max would be driving 2 second a lap fast RB car and dominating the years to come. Zero regret in saying it.
I like Max as an exciting, natural talent, but it would all be of no meaning if he is disappearing at the front without fighting and prevailing. It makes the rest of the talent on the grid look stupid and leave them frustrated and leaving him with hollow count of championships. Lewis himself went through that frusting time for so many years and then there was Jenson and Fernando. It would be a shame if we see don't see the young folks on the grid not having an opportunity to consistently mix it up on the top step of the podium.
I wouldn’t begrudge Hamilton for being in a top car, dominating, after he proved to be as great If not greater-as a rookie- against the very best established drivers in his rookie year in the Same car.
At least Vettel did something sensational though, what he did in the toro rosso in 2008 atleast suggests he was still a very top driver at one stage.
But like I said, if RBR is a dominant team, they are the most likely to produce champions in dominant cars that have been rushed through the young driver program they pioneered in the sport, who have not proven to earn such a dominant car.
We are talking about red bull in my post, not specifically Hamilton. You couldve responded about the point with red bull creating hollow champions with their obsession of young drivers and youngest ever champions.
You yourself brought up a point about Another drivers car so it was relevant to your point to challenge what you were inferring. But you seem to be looking for a scapegoat
