Mercedes W13

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Nice angle on the floor waves
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Can't remember who said it but yeah the vanes under the floor look like shark teeth
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 15:37
The nose won't block your vision but the fact that you can't see the tip of the nose is the challenge. I guess the drivers have the big endplates to at least see their opponents front wings, though I doubt if they can see their own end-plates at all.
When was the last time a driver was able to see the tip of the nose ? or endplates for that matter.
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MercAMGF1Fans wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 16:01
Is it me, or does the Merc look too long for ground effects to work properly?
I'm pretty sure one of the Merc aerodynamics team would've noticed during development. So, it's probably you.

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siskue2005 wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 16:09
MercAMGF1Fans wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 16:01
Is it me, or does the Merc look too long for ground effects to work properly?
What is too long for ground effect ?
Wheelbase.. the car overall just looks too long

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mcjamweasel wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 15:57
cplchanb wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 15:12

First team to have something other than plain black wheel covers!! =D>
mcjamweasel wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 01:45
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLWn_ibXsAA ... ame=medium

Surely I can't be the only one to see it?
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MercAMGF1Fans wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 16:15
siskue2005 wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 16:09
MercAMGF1Fans wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 16:01
Is it me, or does the Merc look too long for ground effects to work properly?
What is too long for ground effect ?
Wheelbase.. the car overall just looks too long
Aren't they limited to maximum length this time? Also you're eyes may be decieved by the fact that the bodywork is so skinny. I'm sure the Ferrari isn't that far off from the overall length

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zibby43 wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 15:52
The pre-2022 cars had incredibly complex aero and exquisitely shaped carbon fiber structures.

This is the only car I’ve seen launched thus far that looks like it has managed to carry over that complexity to the new rules.
What complexity? If anything, this isn’t as aggressive as AM or especially Ferrari.

This looks like they’ve tried to carry over their 2021 concept into the 2022 regulations. Which may work well - time will tell - but it isn’t exactly earth-shattering.

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AeroDynamic wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 16:10
Nice angle on the floor waves
https://i.imgur.com/WDT9QD0.png

Can't remember who said it but yeah the vanes under the floor look like shark teeth
https://i.imgur.com/gr66bkP.png
Hi, As a total newbie, and a non aero expert, I need to ask you to elaborate so I can understand.
The "nice angle on the floor waves" that you refer to: what do you mean by nice, in relation to what function?
What would be a "not" nice angle?
I would really appreciate if you can offer me some more insight regarding your observation. :)

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mkay wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 16:19
zibby43 wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 15:52
The pre-2022 cars had incredibly complex aero and exquisitely shaped carbon fiber structures.

This is the only car I’ve seen launched thus far that looks like it has managed to carry over that complexity to the new rules.
What complexity? If anything, this isn’t as aggressive as AM or especially Ferrari.

This looks like they’ve tried to carry over their 2021 concept into the 2022 regulations. Which may work well - time will tell - but it isn’t exactly earth-shattering.
The front wing flap profiles, the floor, the rear wing, the packaging. lol.

And I don’t agree that this is a concept carryover at all.

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NicoS wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 16:20
AeroDynamic wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 16:10
Nice angle on the floor waves
https://i.imgur.com/WDT9QD0.png

Can't remember who said it but yeah the vanes under the floor look like shark teeth
https://i.imgur.com/gr66bkP.png
Hi, As a total newbie, and a non aero expert, I need to ask you to elaborate so I can understand.
The "nice angle on the floor waves" that you refer to: what do you mean by nice, in relation to what function?
What would be a "not" nice angle?
I would really appreciate if you can offer me some more insight regarding your observation. :)
We're describing the angle of the image to look at the detail of the floor. I'm a newbie too :D

But I can tell the image provides another perspective of what the air is travelling along at a faster rate during race speed?
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Nice bargeboards there Merc. But aren't bargeboards banned this year? =D>

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MercAMGF1Fans wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 16:15
siskue2005 wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 16:09
MercAMGF1Fans wrote:
18 Feb 2022, 16:01
Is it me, or does the Merc look too long for ground effects to work properly?
What is too long for ground effect ?
Wheelbase.. the car overall just looks too long
A longer car will work better with ground effect than a short one. There is a reason the original Lotus 78 had it's wheelbase extended a lot.
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You can see the vortex being shed from the front entrance to the tunnel on the both sides of the car, looks like it runs all the way along the floor to the rear tyre.
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