McLaren MCL36

[f1rules]

from amus on porpoising, most interesting part Wolff: Its about finding the best compromise, running as low as possible but still managing bouncing, Ferrari and McLaren are the best at managing that at the moement



"Wir müssen noch viel über das Setup lernen", bestätigt Haas-Teamchef Guenther Steiner. "Gesucht ist der goldene Mittelweg. Nicht zu tief, damit das Auto nicht aufsetzt, aber auch nicht zu hoch, so dass zu viel Abtrieb verloren geht." Mercedes-Teamchef Toto Wolff resümiert: "Der Schlüssel zu schnellen Runden liegt darin, so tief wie möglich zu fahren und das Problem des Bouncings trotzdem im Griff zu haben. Ferrari und McLaren können das derzeit am besten."

[Emag]

not making conclusions! but mclaren maybe again lacking in final sector, before setting the fastets time, will be interesting to see final sector on that run, ok better last sector, and overall better everywhere
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMW7kYVXEAA ... name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMXDOnCWUAI ... name=large

Much closer on that final run.

[Emag]

from amus on porpoising, most interesting part Wolff: Its about finding the best compromise, running as low as possible but still managing bouncing, Ferrari and McLaren are the best at managing that at the moement



"Wir müssen noch viel über das Setup lernen", bestätigt Haas-Teamchef Guenther Steiner. "Gesucht ist der goldene Mittelweg. Nicht zu tief, damit das Auto nicht aufsetzt, aber auch nicht zu hoch, so dass zu viel Abtrieb verloren geht." Mercedes-Teamchef Toto Wolff resümiert: "Der Schlüssel zu schnellen Runden liegt darin, so tief wie möglich zu fahren und das Problem des Bouncings trotzdem im Griff zu haben. Ferrari und McLaren können das derzeit am besten."

Not sure if we should take this as a positive for McLaren and Ferrari, or as a sign they will be absolutely demolished by Mercedes knowing Toto's unprecedented sandbagging skills

[CjC]

from amus on porpoising, most interesting part Wolff: Its about finding the best compromise, running as low as possible but still managing bouncing, Ferrari and McLaren are the best at managing that at the moement



"Wir müssen noch viel über das Setup lernen", bestätigt Haas-Teamchef Guenther Steiner. "Gesucht ist der goldene Mittelweg. Nicht zu tief, damit das Auto nicht aufsetzt, aber auch nicht zu hoch, so dass zu viel Abtrieb verloren geht." Mercedes-Teamchef Toto Wolff resümiert: "Der Schlüssel zu schnellen Runden liegt darin, so tief wie möglich zu fahren und das Problem des Bouncings trotzdem im Griff zu haben. Ferrari und McLaren können das derzeit am besten."

Porpoising is no stranger to Mclaren. It was a issue in the 2013 season

[j2004p]

Porpoising is no stranger to Mclaren. It was a issue in the 2013 season

Is that the season they were running pull rod last time and the car looked like it was running with no suspension at all?

[f1rules]

ok interesting, i did not know. Well no matter what, this is good news, while McLarens car seem to work here and they can presumably get it into the sweetspot which mean they can move on with their bucketlist, others need to address the issue, and without knowing in detail, it simply cannot be a simple thing to solve. Thats also what the article in amus says. They refer to engineers mentioning its not a pure aero thing, but more factors are involved, floor flex, suspension. And if it happens here imagine some of the tracks on the calendar

[KingHamilton01]

ok interesting, i did not know. Well no matter what, this is good news, while McLarens car seem to work here and they can presumably get into the sweetspot which mean they can move on with their bucketlist, others need to address the issue, and without knowing in detail, it simply cannot be a simple thing to solve. Thats also what the article in amus says. They refer to engineers mentioning its not a pure aero thing, but more factors are involved, floor flex, suspension. And if it happens here imagine some of the tracks on the calendar

Clear that McLaren have got a good foundation to work with and correlation is going well so far, if we they can get the mileage today and tomorrow then gives them a lot of information to go away with an hopefully bring updates quickly to the car.

[f1rules]

Capitos words, same coming from Alfa

"Capito purpoising is a problem that we are all finding and that we need to solve. Of course we can't expect to have all the answers after one day"

"Vasseur on the issues for Alfa Romeo: "It was a bit better this morning, could be worse. I think we’re going in a good direction. It will be completely fixed in Bahrain but to solve everything on track isn’t an easy task." #F1Testing

[CjC]

Porpoising is no stranger to Mclaren. It was a issue in the 2013 season

Is that the season they were running pull rod last time and the car looked like it was running with no suspension at all?

Correct

[onewingedangel]

IIRC the MP4-28 was run intentionally stiff and low at times because that was how they had to run the car to try and extract the performance they observed when they ran the suspension accidentally low in Jerez testing that year.

Ultimately the approach proved unsustainable and they developed away from that limitation.

[mclaren111]

[Macklaren]

With the W13 now sprouting testing gills, is the MCL36 (and maybe RB18?) the only car(s) to not even test gills so far?

[FittingMechanics]

With the W13 now sprouting testing gills, is the MCL36 (and maybe RB18?) the only car(s) to not even test gills so far?

MCL36 has a big cannon cooling exhaust. W13 tried to do with a smaller exit - may need gills.

[Marc.W]

With the W13 now sprouting testing gills, is the MCL36 (and maybe RB18?) the only car(s) to not even test gills so far?

I don't believe we have seen any cooling gills on the Williams either

[Macklaren]

With the W13 now sprouting testing gills, is the MCL36 (and maybe RB18?) the only car(s) to not even test gills so far?

I don't believe we have seen any cooling gills on the Williams either

no gills on the Williams yet but they tried a funky mid sidepod vent this morning