Easy.... It doesn't.dialtone wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 08:22Ok, how do you explain that it looks almost exactly the same?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNjf4XyXIAA ... ame=medium
Easy.... It doesn't.dialtone wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 08:22Ok, how do you explain that it looks almost exactly the same?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNjf4XyXIAA ... ame=medium
Haha! Seconded.F1Fan2018 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 08:44Easy.... It doesn't.dialtone wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 08:22Ok, how do you explain that it looks almost exactly the same?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNjf4XyXIAA ... ame=medium
His fuel calculation based on historical data is also not usable. It might be a 5 kg difference in general (however one comes to that conclusion), but we still don’t know how much fuel they are using on a particular run. Could be that Merc used 20 kg more on their ”quick” runs for all we know. All we do know is that Mercedes are never really showing their hand in testing, and there is even less reason to show their hand in a year like this.zibby43 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 05:23Mark Hughes wrote a detailed piece today on The Race explaining how the Merc was shutting off hybrid deployment on the straights.
It’s not a PU problem, as the Aston pulls strong. It’s a deliberate choice by Merc to turn down the wick on the straights.
He also explained how Ferrari historically carries more fuel than Merc.
Virtually no difference between C4 and C5 on this circuit. In sum, if you correct for those factors, the Merc and Ferrari performances we are seeing right now are virtually identical.
The caveat being, there are still many variables beyond that. But those are easy to account for. You can tell the top 3 aren’t showing anywhere near their full hand when a Haas is fastest lol.
You’re going through a lot of mental gymnastics to not take the piece at face value.Dee wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 06:34I just read the article there and nowhere in it does Hughes state that porpoising is not the reason for the lack of speed on the straights. He states an idea from Sainz as an explanation "So let’s just go with Sainz’s hypothesis for now"zibby43 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 06:12Nope. https://the-race.com/formula-1/mark-hug ... right-now/
Whoever posted what you saw was very wrong in that instance. Not even remotely responsible for what is seen in the traces lol.
I know the account you’re referring to. It’s decent at gathering the data but poor at interpreting it.
He goes on to mention porpoising in the article
"As Hamilton alluded, the Mercedes was more frequently understeering off track (particularly at Turns 4 and 10) and its porpoising looked more severe"
Hamiltons quote
“You can see on the onboards we’re getting tank-slappers left, right and centre,” said Hamilton, “then bouncing and bumping. So, not quite happy at the moment but we’re trying to tame it…
Now, Merc could be pulling a blinder and actively not putting up their power but maybe, just maybe, they have to deal with their issues before they can go full beans
It’s absolutely 100% useable because we are hypothesizing based on the best available data we have. And he’s basing that based on specific types of runs.Tvetovnato wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 09:26His fuel calculation based on historical data is also not usable. It might be a 5 kg difference in general (however one comes to that conclusion), but we still don’t know how much fuel they are using on a particular run. Could be that Merc used 20 kg more on their ”quick” runs for all we know. All we do know is that Mercedes are never really showing their hand in testing, and there is even less reason to show their hand in a year like this.zibby43 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 05:23Mark Hughes wrote a detailed piece today on The Race explaining how the Merc was shutting off hybrid deployment on the straights.
It’s not a PU problem, as the Aston pulls strong. It’s a deliberate choice by Merc to turn down the wick on the straights.
He also explained how Ferrari historically carries more fuel than Merc.
Virtually no difference between C4 and C5 on this circuit. In sum, if you correct for those factors, the Merc and Ferrari performances we are seeing right now are virtually identical.
The caveat being, there are still many variables beyond that. But those are easy to account for. You can tell the top 3 aren’t showing anywhere near their full hand when a Haas is fastest lol.
If Mercedes are deliberately reducing power, no one knows why only themselves, and definitely not Sainzzibby43 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 09:29You’re going through a lot of mental gymnastics to not take the piece at face value.Dee wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 06:34I just read the article there and nowhere in it does Hughes state that porpoising is not the reason for the lack of speed on the straights. He states an idea from Sainz as an explanation "So let’s just go with Sainz’s hypothesis for now"zibby43 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2022, 06:12
Nope. https://the-race.com/formula-1/mark-hug ... right-now/
Whoever posted what you saw was very wrong in that instance. Not even remotely responsible for what is seen in the traces lol.
I know the account you’re referring to. It’s decent at gathering the data but poor at interpreting it.
He goes on to mention porpoising in the article
"As Hamilton alluded, the Mercedes was more frequently understeering off track (particularly at Turns 4 and 10) and its porpoising looked more severe"
Hamiltons quote
“You can see on the onboards we’re getting tank-slappers left, right and centre,” said Hamilton, “then bouncing and bumping. So, not quite happy at the moment but we’re trying to tame it…
Now, Merc could be pulling a blinder and actively not putting up their power but maybe, just maybe, they have to deal with their issues before they can go full beans
I also find it a little humorous that you’re basically stating you know better than Sainz, who sees the team data.
yeah not surprising.. I doubt im the only one that could hear the difference from the onboards. The sound pitch has not been as aggressive to listen to compared to race weekends.
Definitely saw some onboards now, and it true... there harvesting lights on the rear wing was flashing evey where