2022 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

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SmallSoldier wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 15:49
mwillems wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 11:59
It might not even be the Mclaren, I have baby brain from not sleeping 😂
Congratulations? 😉
Yep it's an actual girl lol Not just simulated baby brain!
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Emag wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 12:03
mwillems wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 11:53
SmallSoldier wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 03:51

That would be my guess (mic placement)… I hope they change it, pretty annoying actually


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Am I misremembering? Did we have skid plates on the floor that other cars didn't that might cause this? I have some dim recollection of unusual skid plates on the floor from somewhere!
It must be intentional, because I doubt they would leave it bottoming out like that if it wasn't.
There was some chatter about its ability to act as an addition physical sealant of the floor.

Feels like those skids are probably set to a height that prevents the venturi effect from failing and hence why the porpoising is better.
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organic wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 01:54
Balalu wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 01:48
Did McLaren run the car lower than others? I'm surprised no one seems to mention the scrubbing sound it was doing on the straights (onboard footage). Did not notice it on the other cars.
Isn't the different sound more likely due to different mic placement? Believe the exhaust mics were placed by the teams for testing (?)
"Right from the start, unlike most other cars, McLaren’s MCL36 wasn’t sealing its floor by running it almost on the ground. They have set its skid blocks at a height above the porpoising threshold.

In footage from Lando Norris’ cockpit from testing, the skid blocks’ light skittering over the Bahrain track surface at high speed could be heard quite distinctly, but there was virtually no porpoising." - Mark Hughes

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... Mmhkt.html
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mwillems wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 21:31
SmallSoldier wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 15:49
mwillems wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 11:59
It might not even be the Mclaren, I have baby brain from not sleeping 😂
Congratulations? 😉
Yep it's an actual girl lol Not just simulated baby brain!
Double congratulations then!!! I would like to tell you that it will be short lived… But mine is going to turn 10 in a couple of days and I still have baby brain! 😁

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Balalu wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 22:26
organic wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 01:54
Balalu wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 01:48
Did McLaren run the car lower than others? I'm surprised no one seems to mention the scrubbing sound it was doing on the straights (onboard footage). Did not notice it on the other cars.
Isn't the different sound more likely due to different mic placement? Believe the exhaust mics were placed by the teams for testing (?)
"Right from the start, unlike most other cars, McLaren’s MCL36 wasn’t sealing its floor by running it almost on the ground. They have set its skid blocks at a height above the porpoising threshold.

In footage from Lando Norris’ cockpit from testing, the skid blocks’ light skittering over the Bahrain track surface at high speed could be heard quite distinctly, but there was virtually no porpoising." - Mark Hughes

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... Mmhkt.html
Where are those skid blocks located? In the plank close to the T-Tray? Or is the assumption that they are placing skid blocks on the floor itself? I thought those weren’t allowed in the regulations.

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Balalu wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 22:26
organic wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 01:54
Balalu wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 01:48
Did McLaren run the car lower than others? I'm surprised no one seems to mention the scrubbing sound it was doing on the straights (onboard footage). Did not notice it on the other cars.
Isn't the different sound more likely due to different mic placement? Believe the exhaust mics were placed by the teams for testing (?)
"Right from the start, unlike most other cars, McLaren’s MCL36 wasn’t sealing its floor by running it almost on the ground. They have set its skid blocks at a height above the porpoising threshold.

In footage from Lando Norris’ cockpit from testing, the skid blocks’ light skittering over the Bahrain track surface at high speed could be heard quite distinctly, but there was virtually no porpoising." - Mark Hughes

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... Mmhkt.html
Definately a sore ass though.

Well that's as I suspected, if it turns out to be our solution of porpoising I'm not sure if that article says anything but the radical suggestions were that the skid blocks helped seal the floor too, which would eliminate the loss of downforce from not being as close to the ground.


Consistency will be as important as speed in these early stages. I feel like there will be many spins, offs and floor damage under race conditions. You don't need the fastest car to do well. To finish first you first have to finish....
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SmallSoldier wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 22:27
mwillems wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 21:31
SmallSoldier wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 15:49


Congratulations? 😉
Yep it's an actual girl lol Not just simulated baby brain!
Double congratulations then!!! I would like to tell you that it will be short lived… But mine is going to turn 10 in a couple of days and I still have baby brain! 😁
This is number 2, number one is 6 years old who would not sleep in a cot. Number 2 thank the gods sleeps quite well.

Number one already supports Mclaren ;)
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SmallSoldier wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 22:37
Balalu wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 22:26
organic wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 01:54


Isn't the different sound more likely due to different mic placement? Believe the exhaust mics were placed by the teams for testing (?)
"Right from the start, unlike most other cars, McLaren’s MCL36 wasn’t sealing its floor by running it almost on the ground. They have set its skid blocks at a height above the porpoising threshold.

In footage from Lando Norris’ cockpit from testing, the skid blocks’ light skittering over the Bahrain track surface at high speed could be heard quite distinctly, but there was virtually no porpoising." - Mark Hughes

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... Mmhkt.html
Where are those skid blocks located? In the plank close to the T-Tray? Or is the assumption that they are placing skid blocks on the floor itself? I thought those weren’t allowed in the regulations.
AFAIK they are still there, placed along the centre line.

Isn't safety the whole point of skid blocks? Why would they disallow them?
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Balalu wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 23:09
SmallSoldier wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 22:37
Balalu wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 22:26


"Right from the start, unlike most other cars, McLaren’s MCL36 wasn’t sealing its floor by running it almost on the ground. They have set its skid blocks at a height above the porpoising threshold.

In footage from Lando Norris’ cockpit from testing, the skid blocks’ light skittering over the Bahrain track surface at high speed could be heard quite distinctly, but there was virtually no porpoising." - Mark Hughes

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... Mmhkt.html
Where are those skid blocks located? In the plank close to the T-Tray? Or is the assumption that they are placing skid blocks on the floor itself? I thought those weren’t allowed in the regulations.
AFAIK they are still there, placed along the centre line.

Isn't safety the whole point of skid blocks? Why would they disallow them?
The skid blocks on the plank are there to ensure that the minimum thickness of the plank is met after a race (since it’s made out of wood)… The reason why they are banned on the floor “edge” is to avoid teams using actual skirts (like in the Lotus)

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Titanium I think, hence the sparks
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mwillems wrote:
16 Mar 2022, 00:44
Titanium I think, hence the sparks
Yep!

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SmallSoldier wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 22:27
mwillems wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 21:31
SmallSoldier wrote:
15 Mar 2022, 15:49


Congratulations? 😉
Yep it's an actual girl lol Not just simulated baby brain!
Double congratulations then!!! I would like to tell you that it will be short lived… But mine is going to turn 10 in a couple of days and I still have baby brain! 😁

Congratulations... =D>

My little girl is 26 and still baby brain... :D

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Ric to attend the Grand Prix

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SmallSoldier wrote:
16 Mar 2022, 03:54
mwillems wrote:
16 Mar 2022, 00:44
Titanium I think, hence the sparks
Yep!
Just reading about it, it is "Jabroc" that sits underneath the titanium plates and is used to measure and ensure the cars are not getting too close to the ground. A type of veneered high density wood.
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Seerix wrote:
16 Mar 2022, 12:02
Ric to attend the Grand Prix
Great news!
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