2022 Alpine F1 Team

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Racing pace leaves much to be desired. And I would like to know how A522 lacking in engine performance and aerodynamics. It remains to be hoped that Alpine will succeed in the upgrade race

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Is there significant upgrade planned? They have made little progress up the pecking order based on today showing

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Kamel wrote:
20 Mar 2022, 19:45
Racing pace leaves much to be desired. And I would like to know how A522 lacking in engine performance and aerodynamics. It remains to be hoped that Alpine will succeed in the upgrade race
They're doing alot of lift and coast to save tires.

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Alonso had gearbox issues.

he did never use 8th gear on the straights, you can see this on the onboards.

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Still no post race interviews by any Alpine driver on Sky :( . We saw the top 3 twice though, in case I'm suffering from dementia.

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Lol u guys hype urselves up and then are disappointed! Always keep expectations in check and ull have a much better day. I for 1 am very happy with the result overall, double points, made it to the end, alo was shocking though and surely needs to work on race pace. Did get a cracker of a start but got blocked by slow starting bottas. And just stayed there. Maybe age showing a bit? No idea. But just the first race of the long year. Let's see how it develops. Ocon did a solid job. Kind of surprised haas and alfa lasted the whole race.
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diffuser wrote:
20 Mar 2022, 20:04
Still no post race interviews by any Alpine driver on Sky :( . We saw the top 3 twice though, in case I'm suffering from dementia.
Am waiting for Ted's notebook on this. Usually brings some context we didn't get in the coverage
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diffuser wrote:
20 Mar 2022, 19:14
Michelangelo wrote:
20 Mar 2022, 19:10
Them being lapped is not really surprising. They are a midfield team in a long race with significantly fast front runners.
Really only the top 3 teams were on the same lap. 7 teams got lapped.
Should this be comforting :?
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Alonso Fan wrote:
20 Mar 2022, 20:15
Lol u guys hype urselves up and then are disappointed! Always keep expectations in check and ull have a much better day. I for 1 am very happy with the result overall, double points, made it to the end, alo was shocking though and surely needs to work on race pace. Did get a cracker of a start but got blocked by slow starting bottas. And just stayed there. Maybe age showing a bit? No idea. But just the first race of the long year. Let's see how it develops. Ocon did a solid job. Kind of surprised haas and alfa lasted the whole race.
Very few people were hyping Alpine. This is the result I expected, and I'm annoyed that I was right about it in the end. I wanted to be wrong.
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The only positive things i am taking from this race, is 1st) the PU on both cars made it to the end and they gathered a lot of PU related data in race trim (i don't think PU is running full power yet or at least with fully optimized race engine maps) 2nd) the cars where running with different parts and different configuration so they now have much more data to analyze. 3rd) they raced all the dry tire compounds available so they gathered a lot of data on the tires also.
Other than that, Ocon did a decent job, and Alonso well, he was eating the tires for breakfast, no matter what compound he was on. I guess it was more car setup and balance issue than his driving, BUT i do have to point out, that multiple teams where instructing their drivers to not push their tires in the first laps, especially the mediums, and that Alpine never gave such instruction to Alonso.

So overall i see this race as another testing session. A very important one for the future.

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AR3-GP wrote:
20 Mar 2022, 20:20
Alonso Fan wrote:
20 Mar 2022, 20:15
Lol u guys hype urselves up and then are disappointed! Always keep expectations in check and ull have a much better day. I for 1 am very happy with the result overall, double points, made it to the end, alo was shocking though and surely needs to work on race pace. Did get a cracker of a start but got blocked by slow starting bottas. And just stayed there. Maybe age showing a bit? No idea. But just the first race of the long year. Let's see how it develops. Ocon did a solid job. Kind of surprised haas and alfa lasted the whole race.
Very few people were hyping Alpine. This is the result I expected, and I'm annoyed that I was right about it in the end. I wanted to be wrong.
Why annoyance though? Sure I agree we would like to see them up near the front but is that realistic given they've made no new signings in the aero department (that I know of)? Aston is who should be disappointed and properly annoyed considering all the hirings they've made and restructuring that's gone on. Alpine will be as good as its aero department is.
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Bisonas wrote:
20 Mar 2022, 20:35
The only positive things i am taking from this race, is 1st) the PU on both cars made it to the end and they gathered a lot of PU related data in race trim (i don't think PU is running full power yet or with optimal race engine maps) 2nd) the cars where running with different parts and different configuration so they now have much more data to analyze. 3rd) they raced all the dry tire compounds available so they gathered a lot of data on the tires also.
Other than that, Ocon did a decent job, and Alonso well, he was eating the tires for breakfast, no matter what compound he was on. I guess it was more car setup and balance issue than his driving, BUT i do have to point out, that multiple teams where instructing their drivers to not push their tires in the first laps, especially the mediums, and that Alpine never gave such instruction to Alonso.

So overall i see this race as another testing session. A very important one for the future.
Well resume it was test but i dont think with this group of ingeniors fry and co they will fight in the front in the futur they dont have enough talent and creativity to design a winning car

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I think Alpine can improve to become faster. It is still difficult to judge whether the power unit has any prospects.
Guys, share if you have A522 technical data, telemetry, engine performance etc.

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The car itself was not slow, the problem is that tyres lasts 3 or 4 laps with decent performance, and they drop a lot in comparison with other teams, no matter the compound. Alonso usually takes well care of the degradation ( not as good as Perez for example ) and last year we see how he manage to go pits few laps later than most, today he's been going pits a few laps earlier ...

For any reason, the degradation today has been terrible in Alonso's car but a little bit better in Ocon's one, but anyway both of them manage the tyres worse than the others in the "mid" group.

With better tyre degradation the can be 7th and 8th probably, that "medium pack" will be very very tight this year.

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Car didn't seem slow, degradation was hitting already in lap 4 of each stint, which is an enormous handicap.

Too stiff settings as a response to porpoising?