2022 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, April 08 - 10

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:18
Charles is certainly the fastest driver in F1 isn't he?
Without an iota of doubt, it's Fernando Alonso! Unless, we are talking about a driver that possesses fastest machinery.

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dialtone wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:07
https://i.postimg.cc/c0gk8YyT/LEC-VER.png

Top 2 telemetry and big surprise: top speed is basically the same, but Ferrari has much better traction, maybe even slightly more powerful engine. I wasn't expecting to see better speed after the last few days.
Charles and max have completely different driving styles thats for sure. Charles almost always carries a bit of throttle where max lifts completely. Charles likes to brush the brake with a smaller lift in some turns where max uses a bigger lift with no brake.
Interesting to see.
2 different cars, 2 different drivers with 2 quite different styles. And they manags to be almost identical up untill the final 2 turns.
Where max lifts really quite early then brakes earlier than charles too.

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silver wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:45
PlatinumZealot wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:18
Charles is certainly the fastest driver in F1 isn't he?
Without an iota of doubt, it's Fernando Alonso! Unless, we are talking about a driver that possesses fastest machinery.
:lol: :lol:
We need a miracle. We need only one racing lap.

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chrisc90 wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:08
Sky just showed that max lost all the time at the left hander at the end of the lap. He was a car length ahead going into there
Let´s be honest, he should have been a lot closer, at least. He just couldn´t a lap together.

@dialtone if RB and FER have the same top speed now(well RB still have 4 or 5 km/h at the 310 ish places), what do you think happened? Have RB increased their DF/drag or has Ferrari decreased their DF/drag?
PlatinumZealot wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:18
Charles is certainly the fastest driver in F1 isn't he?
He may very well be. If I had to guess so, I would pick him eventhough I don´t particularly support him

@xaero , no need to mock Alonso this time around. He likely isn´t among the fastests right now, also due to his age, but he was doing a very good job up untill his car fail

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silver wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:45
PlatinumZealot wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:18
Charles is certainly the fastest driver in F1 isn't he?
Without an iota of doubt, it's Fernando Alonso! Unless, we are talking about a driver that possesses fastest machinery.
I will have to second that, mate! =D>

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Artur Craft wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:52
chrisc90 wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:08

@xaero , no need to mock Alonso this time around. He likely isn´t among the fastests right now, also due to his age, but he was doing a very good job up untill his car fail
Not at all. He was/is doing really well.
We need a miracle. We need only one racing lap.

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xaero wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:46
silver wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:45
PlatinumZealot wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:18
Charles is certainly the fastest driver in F1 isn't he?
Without an iota of doubt, it's Fernando Alonso! Unless, we are talking about a driver that possesses fastest machinery.
:lol: :lol:
He wasn't faster than Lewis when Lewis was a rookie :). See, we can all go with this nonsense forever. If you want to compare drivers from different teams that go watch spec racing.

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Juzh wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:30
dialtone wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:07
https://i.postimg.cc/c0gk8YyT/LEC-VER.png

Top 2 telemetry and big surprise: top speed is basically the same, but Ferrari has much better traction, maybe even slightly more powerful engine. I wasn't expecting to see better speed after the last few days.
If you look at Perez' trace it's 100% clear red bull is almost completely out of energy exiting final corner. They are 10 kmh slower over the line ending the lap compared to starting it. DRS zone removal was a double whammy for them.


Ferrari has much better traction, maybe even slightly more powerful engine.
Been saying it since bahrain. Once red bull has to put on some more downforce it'll become clear ferrari has the most outright power of any engine.
It appears that RB18 is fast but less sorted as it still has loads of understeer which forces the driver to take turns slightly slower and a lot of hustle to get the optimum performance whereas Ferrari appears far more sorted and smooth. If driven with a bit more compromise like Perez is doing, it produces similarly close performance to what Verstappen is extracting with a most aggressive driving. It's overweight also adds to the woes. RB17B had the same traits of understeer. It's less of a headache though in races and key is to look after the tyres to have them when need comes to relentless push.
Today's problems aside, it appears as if Sainz doesn't have that last bit of grit needed to go for "Wow" lap which is required to beat the likes of Leclerc and Verstappen.

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…and 2pts on his license too.
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Artur Craft wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:52
chrisc90 wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:08
Sky just showed that max lost all the time at the left hander at the end of the lap. He was a car length ahead going into there
Let´s be honest, he should have been a lot closer, at least. He just couldn´t a lap together.

@dialtone if RB and FER have the same top speed now(well RB still have 4 or 5 km/h at the 310 ish places), what do you think happened? Have RB increased their DF/drag or has Ferrari decreased their DF/drag?
PlatinumZealot wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:18
Charles is certainly the fastest driver in F1 isn't he?
He may very well be. If I had to guess so, I would pick him eventhough I don´t particularly support him

@xaero , no need to mock Alonso this time around. He likely isn´t among the fastests right now, also due to his age, but he was doing a very good job up untill his car fail

Removal of that back DRS zone probably hurting the Bulls a few tenths.

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chrisc90 wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 11:08
Artur Craft wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:52
chrisc90 wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:08
Sky just showed that max lost all the time at the left hander at the end of the lap. He was a car length ahead going into there
Let´s be honest, he should have been a lot closer, at least. He just couldn´t a lap together.

@dialtone if RB and FER have the same top speed now(well RB still have 4 or 5 km/h at the 310 ish places), what do you think happened? Have RB increased their DF/drag or has Ferrari decreased their DF/drag?
PlatinumZealot wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:18
Charles is certainly the fastest driver in F1 isn't he?
He may very well be. If I had to guess so, I would pick him eventhough I don´t particularly support him

@xaero , no need to mock Alonso this time around. He likely isn´t among the fastests right now, also due to his age, but he was doing a very good job up untill his car fail

Removal of that back DRS zone probably hurting the Bulls a few tenths.
normally it should be worse for Ferrari, as they were on a higher downforce setup.

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Artur Craft wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:52
chrisc90 wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:08
Sky just showed that max lost all the time at the left hander at the end of the lap. He was a car length ahead going into there
Let´s be honest, he should have been a lot closer, at least. He just couldn´t a lap together.

@dialtone if RB and FER have the same top speed now(well RB still have 4 or 5 km/h at the 310 ish places), what do you think happened? Have RB increased their DF/drag or has Ferrari decreased their DF/drag?
PlatinumZealot wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:18
Charles is certainly the fastest driver in F1 isn't he?
He may very well be. If I had to guess so, I would pick him eventhough I don´t particularly support him

@xaero , no need to mock Alonso this time around. He likely isn´t among the fastests right now, also due to his age, but he was doing a very good job up untill his car fail
Ferrari brought a new diffuser to Aus, so perhaps they now have more rear DF from the floor so they can use a slimmer wing for the same over DF with less drag

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the new diffuser and floor wasn't supposed to be used today. Haven't read anything if they still did, but it was just a test for coming updates

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search wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 11:19
chrisc90 wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 11:08
Artur Craft wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:52

Let´s be honest, he should have been a lot closer, at least. He just couldn´t a lap together.

@dialtone if RB and FER have the same top speed now(well RB still have 4 or 5 km/h at the 310 ish places), what do you think happened? Have RB increased their DF/drag or has Ferrari decreased their DF/drag?

He may very well be. If I had to guess so, I would pick him eventhough I don´t particularly support him

@xaero , no need to mock Alonso this time around. He likely isn´t among the fastests right now, also due to his age, but he was doing a very good job up untill his car fail

Removal of that back DRS zone probably hurting the Bulls a few tenths.
normally it should be worse for Ferrari, as they were on a higher downforce setup.
But strangely it isn't, even with less drag/downforce red bull gains a lot more top speed with drs open compared to ferrari (and other teams as well apart from maybe alpine, but they're running very low wings this race). I'm sure there's an explanation somewhere in how rear wing flaps are set up on both cars.