2022 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, April 08 - 10

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Man so gutted. This guy is so talented but with 0 luck.

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max_speed wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 19:54
Man so gutted. This guy is so talented but with 0 luck.
Like the Verstappen lap of Jeddah 2021. That was a lovely lap too!
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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nimoraca wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:59
xaero wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:46
silver wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 10:45
Without an iota of doubt, it's Fernando Alonso! Unless, we are talking about a driver that possesses fastest machinery.
:lol: :lol:
He wasn't faster than Lewis when Lewis was a rookie :). See, we can all go with this nonsense forever. If you want to compare drivers from different teams that go watch spec racing.
If today car would have lasted one more sector, you would have stopped before posting this.

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Sainz might be important tomorrow even if he's starting 9th. If he can stay in the pit window of the top 3 with harder tyres (overcut) he can make the RB strategy more difficult, even if it's easier to overtake...
Nevertheless, we can count on one of the Williams, or the AM to make the safety car interfer into the race...

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Dee wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 17:29
ringo wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 16:29
Leclerc talent really apparent this year. I think from what i observe the cars are about equal with different charateristics. Charles driving style just has more potential to extract more speed. Max style in theory isnt optimal, the early braking thing and lags between brake and throttle. I guess Leclerc is more confident in his car. Max making errors is nothing new. We saw it last year as well. He either still got pole or lost pole, but some would just say he is pushing so hard that's why this happens.
I think he needs to change approach and let the car come to him. Same as Sainz. He is pushing too hard. Sainze should just accept that Leclerc is faster. He will consistently be in the top 2 rowd and then he can try and win a race frim there. He has to play to strengths and just give up on trying to be faster than Leclerc.

As for mercedes.. i think Hamilton will be on podium again. Some crashing will take place with Max and Charles or Perez. I also feel the Mclaren isnt out of the woods reliability wise.
Max was equal to Charles in that last lap until the last two corners, all weekend we have seen the RB be poor there for both Perez and Max so before you want to start jumping on driving styles remember that part

Max said that he doesn't have balance in the car, it overtsteers and then understeers, he doesn't understand what is going to happen, so therefore he cannot plan a way of attacking it. In the race fans comment section a member stated that the car could be going through a pressure shift due to the ride height fluctuating under braking, which is known to happen in GE cars.

This doesn't seem to be a factor in Ferrari, you point the car into a slow corner and it turns in

The slight hope is that Max has gotten glimpses of good balance from the car and when he has, he has shown how quick it is, he was 5 tenths up on Perez in the first lap of Q3 (before the lockup) and in Q3 in Bahrain he had a great first lap which he said felt good so we shall see what happens
Based on Sainz comments I think both cars are going through the same thing. Leclerc is just more comfortable. The ferrari has some advantages yes, but so does the bull. The same displeasure Max has is similar to Sainz feedback.
They aren't gelling well at the moment, but Charles is thriving. This is my thoughts anyway, it doesn't have to be the case, but I think Charles is very clutch.
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max_speed wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 19:54
Man so gutted. This guy is so talented but with 0 luck.
He was just so on it! Absolute cruel luck. The car just gave up. I would have been delighted to see him on pole or even 2nd!

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 18:49
Perez is in the picture but he takes less risk. For the eace Perez will be ordered to stay behind even if he is faster.
No logic. P1 perez p2 lec p3 vers is better than p1 lec p2 vers. İf p1 perez p2 vers then if needed they can change it. In this condition both should try to take pole. Thats best strategy

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silver wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 20:43
max_speed wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 19:54
Man so gutted. This guy is so talented but with 0 luck.
He was just so on it! Absolute cruel luck. The car just gave up. I would have been delighted to see him on pole or even 2nd!
would have been interesting to see how close he would have come indeed, but tbh, the 3rd sector was Alpine's worst one all weekend. In FP3 was also quicker than Leclerc after two sectors, but lost ~3 tenths in the final one.

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New guidance on SC restarts.
Common sense prevails.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 21:25
New guidance on SC restarts.
Common sense prevails.

https://preview.redd.it/vez3zaf27fs81.j ... e178814a4d
Seriously ?
What in God's name is dangerous using these tactics at 60mph ?
It's just silly bemothering ...
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godlameroso wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 19:38
LM10 wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 19:29
godlameroso wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 17:49
It will be an interesting race, if Verstappen can stay with LeClerc, then he can use the draft to save his battery, and his top speed advantage will also help him save fuel. He can bide his time then attack late race, if LeClerc responds to this, he will have to pit and force Verstappen to run to his pace, but if the tires are consistent he makes himself vulnerable to an overcut due to the warm up phase in the outlap. Verstappen has enough top speed and enough pace to defend if he gains track position, like last year's RB16B Verstappen knows how difficult it is to overtake if you don't have the top speed. The only way to pass with a top speed deficit is under braking.

Perez is there to spoil the party as well. It's better for Verstappen's championship that Perez wins over LeClerc, obviously it's better if he comes first, but if that's not possible, there's a 3 point difference from 2nd to 3rd vs 7 point difference from 1st to 2nd.
The RedBull does not have a significant top speed advantage over Ferrari this time around.
9 km/h in Jeddah it was what 10?
You're right. Looking at the whole session the top speed of the RBR was 322 km/h and that of Ferrari 314 km/h. In the telemetry lap comparison between Leclerc and Max the difference was only 5 km/h, though. No idea which of these differences is the true one, not counting in slip stream.

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langedweil wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 21:37
PlatinumZealot wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 21:25
New guidance on SC restarts.
Common sense prevails.

https://preview.redd.it/vez3zaf27fs81.j ... e178814a4d
Seriously ?
What in God's name is dangerous using these tactics at 60mph ?
It's just silly bemothering ...
I think its that it denies the lead car the width of the track. If someone is alongside in the corner, yo can not tale the tightest or widest line.
When arguing with a fool, be sure the other person is not doing the same thing.

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langedweil wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 21:37
PlatinumZealot wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 21:25
New guidance on SC restarts.
Common sense prevails.

https://preview.redd.it/vez3zaf27fs81.j ... e178814a4d
Seriously ?
What in God's name is dangerous using these tactics at 60mph ?
It's just silly bemothering ...
It impedes the line of the lead car.
It's unfair. It's unsafe. The guy who was ten seconds behind now can create a disadvantage of the lead car even before the race restarts. Goes against the intention of a race restart.
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LM10 wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 22:12
godlameroso wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 19:38
LM10 wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 19:29


The RedBull does not have a significant top speed advantage over Ferrari this time around.
9 km/h in Jeddah it was what 10?
You're right. Looking at the whole session the top speed of the RBR was 322 km/h and that of Ferrari 314 km/h. In the telemetry lap comparison between Leclerc and Max the difference was only 5 km/h, though. No idea which of these differences is the true one, not counting in slip stream.
I don't see why they can't both be right. The top speed in the lap is basically entry to T1. Then they don't get back to that speed again.

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Aside from that first speed trap, through the rest of the lap they are equivalent and at the end of the lap Ferrari ends up actually 5kmh faster.

telemetry isn't perfect anyway, always due to sampling, but the error should be uniformly distributed, so it should preserve the speed difference.

EDIT: what you see here anyway is that RedBull, like in Jeddah and Bahrain, gains more speed with DRS open while Ferrari doesn't gain as much speed (the backstraight they are both the same, but the other 2 DRS zones, not finish line, are all 4-5kmh more for RedBull.

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langedweil wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 21:37
PlatinumZealot wrote:
09 Apr 2022, 21:25
New guidance on SC restarts.
Common sense prevails.

https://preview.redd.it/vez3zaf27fs81.j ... e178814a4d
Seriously ?
What in God's name is dangerous using these tactics at 60mph ?
It's just silly bemothering ...
This new guidance is perfect. The second driver has absolutely no business positioning himself almost at the same height as the lead car. It's just silly to give the second driver the opportunity to disturb the lead car in such a way. He's lucky enough for the gap to disappear completely due to the SC.