Aston Martin AMR22

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The aston Martin uses bigger but thinner radiators to increase the air flowcross section to reduce flow losses. So drag increase might not be that high.
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JPower wrote: ↑
04 Apr 2022, 17:17
Just_a_fan wrote: ↑
04 Apr 2022, 10:12
ringo wrote: ↑
04 Apr 2022, 10:03
Air turning almost 90 degrees through the radiator core should create more drag than normal.
Very interesting design to increase flow on top of the floor but too extreme.
Agreed. That radiator installation must be very drag inducing. No wonder they're struggling in a straight line.
Again, the Alfa is using the same orientation, haven't seen anything to suggest its lacking in a straightline vs the other two Ferrari cars.
Aston Martin has a weight issue. While They have been secretive, rumours are that they haven't brought a proper car yet, thus their current car is 817kg which is 19 kgs heaver than the Alfa and 7 kgs more then the second heaviest, the Red bull. A 15kg weight upgrade is coming to Albert Park or Imola directly so we will soon get a better picture
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Ashwinv16 wrote: ↑
05 Apr 2022, 09:13
JPower wrote: ↑
04 Apr 2022, 17:17
Just_a_fan wrote: ↑
04 Apr 2022, 10:12

Agreed. That radiator installation must be very drag inducing. No wonder they're struggling in a straight line.
Again, the Alfa is using the same orientation, haven't seen anything to suggest its lacking in a straightline vs the other two Ferrari cars.
Aston Martin has a weight issue. While They have been secretive, rumours are that they haven't brought a proper car yet, thus their current car is 817kg which is 19 kgs heaver than the Alfa and 7 kgs more then the second heaviest, the Red bull. A 15kg weight upgrade is coming to Albert Park or Imola directly so we will soon get a better picture
That's a huge amount of time to gain just from weight loss alone. We do have to remember that these regs are set for quite a few years, and testing is very short.
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The bigger issue is for Aston imo the engine.

Jeddah has lots of long straights and the Merc engined cars were all in the bottom half of the speedtraps iirc. And barring Russell they all qualified poorly.

Since Cowell left the trend is the rest of the engines have all caught up with the Merc engine β€” and with the engine freeze that would mean, if true, that their disadvantage is locked in.

Even if they manage to make killer aero would it be enough to counter the engine deficit? Given AM the car company is partly Mercedes owned I’m guessing they probably have no avenue to look at in terms of an engine switch.
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Ashwinv16 wrote: ↑
05 Apr 2022, 09:13

Aston Martin has a weight issue. While They have been secretive, rumours are that they haven't brought a proper car yet, thus their current car is 817kg which is 19 kgs heaver than the Alfa and 7 kgs more then the second heaviest, the Red bull. A 15kg weight upgrade is coming to Albert Park or Imola directly so we will soon get a better picture
Do you have a source for that?

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Another different rear wing with a flat leading edge.

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I don't think the RW is their problem unfortunately....

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Vettel said he did something with a tool under his car to cool it down.
Does anyone knows what was it?

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AMR22 floor
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It looks similar to the Mercedes floor.

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Their strakes are more recessed than the other teams. Also, I'm still not sure why they chose that sidepod shape. Just wanted to get the inlet as far forward as possible? The flat face seems crude.
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vorticism wrote: ↑
15 Apr 2022, 04:32
Their strakes are more recessed than the other teams. Also, I'm still not sure why they chose that sidepod shape. Just wanted to get the inlet as far forward as possible? The flat face seems crude.
It's to deal with upper/mid tyre wake without the splefs and bargeboards
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jjn9128 wrote: ↑
15 Apr 2022, 13:41
vorticism wrote: ↑
15 Apr 2022, 04:32
Their strakes are more recessed than the other teams. Also, I'm still not sure why they chose that sidepod shape. Just wanted to get the inlet as far forward as possible? The flat face seems crude.
It's to deal with upper/mid tyre wake without the splefs and bargeboards
I suppose, they still have a larger Merc/RB size bargeboard/strake*; I hope it was just not a concession to the exclusion zone. No one else took this approach except Ferrari although their sidepod flat face is under the inlet rather than beside it. Surely the Ferrari version pushes more air, given that it abuts the floor.

*are these being called bargeboards now or strakes? Also what is a splef? :D
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KAIZEN wrote: ↑
14 Apr 2022, 13:19
AMR22 floor
https://i.imgur.com/BQdFC8G.jpeg
Look as bog basic as the merc floor