2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Haas have built an ok car, and they also have the best PU on the grid. It makes sense that they are competitive. As others note, the car looks nothing like the Ferrari. The performance is helped by the PU, and everything else is just coincidence.
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LM10 wrote:
19 Apr 2022, 22:06
So which are the 3 teams wanting the FIA to have a look at possible IP sharing between Ferrari and Haas? Looking at what hypocrite Szafnauer told, one of them must be Alpine and then two of the three Mercedes powered teams.

I find it really amusing, to be honest. In the last years when Haas looked much more like a Ferrari, no one bothered. But now, when Ferrari is winning and Haas catapulted itself from dead end to solid midfield, some teams already started doing acts of desperation.

The reality is, that there are more differences than similarities between the SF F1-75 and the VF-22. Front wing, nose, tunnel entry, floor, sidepods, diffuser, rear wing… basically everything seen from outside is different to the point that it’s absolutely ridiculous to talk about IP share.
If I had to guess based on press comments (always dangerous), the complainers would be Alpine, McLaren, and Mercedes. Aston Martin and Williams already buy many parts from Mercedes, so I don't think they'd complain. Vasseur has more or less said he doesn't care. RB/AT surely aren't going to campaign against team collaboration...
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continuum16 wrote:
20 Apr 2022, 17:28
LM10 wrote:
19 Apr 2022, 22:06
So which are the 3 teams wanting the FIA to have a look at possible IP sharing between Ferrari and Haas? Looking at what hypocrite Szafnauer told, one of them must be Alpine and then two of the three Mercedes powered teams.

I find it really amusing, to be honest. In the last years when Haas looked much more like a Ferrari, no one bothered. But now, when Ferrari is winning and Haas catapulted itself from dead end to solid midfield, some teams already started doing acts of desperation.

The reality is, that there are more differences than similarities between the SF F1-75 and the VF-22. Front wing, nose, tunnel entry, floor, sidepods, diffuser, rear wing… basically everything seen from outside is different to the point that it’s absolutely ridiculous to talk about IP share.
If I had to guess based on press comments (always dangerous), the complainers would be Alpine, McLaren, and Mercedes. Aston Martin and Williams already buy many parts from Mercedes, so I don't think they'd complain. Vasseur has more or less said he doesn't care. RB/AT surely aren't going to campaign against team collaboration...
I think you are spot on about the complainers. More than an educated guess at that.
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IS THE HAAS A WHITE FERRARI?
More differences than similarities
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... 1-technik/

Funny that AMuS who regularly call the Haas the "US Ferrari" in their articles (including in this piece) then write an entire article talking about how different the cars are

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wowgr8 wrote:
20 Apr 2022, 19:58
IS THE HAAS A WHITE FERRARI?
More differences than similarities
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... 1-technik/

Funny that AMuS who regularly call the Haas the "US Ferrari" in their articles (including in this piece) then write an entire article talking about how different the cars are
In truth there are many similarities... Engine and gearbox plus others we know about but there are more, both are single seaters, they both have front and back wings, four wheels, steering wheel, fuel tank etc even though they look different (excuse the sarcasm).

Perhaps they suspect something or worse they are just asking them to snoop in desperate hopes that something gets uncovered or it's simply a case of tying up management addressing the allegations so these two teams spend less time improving the F1-75 or the HAAS.

These teams, whoever they are, might spend more time fixing their own cars instead of finding excuses to explain to their sponsors why HAAS has taken points away from their expectations.

Complaining teams should actually be able to present proof that something is covert instead of just complaining. Does anyone know if anything has been presented in the way of proof?

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I think assuming those teams who are legally purchasing parts of another teams, can´t be the complainers, is a mistake. There´s a difference between doing legal things and doing illegal things

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Sainz + Leclerc until 2024, at least.

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Happy for him. Far behind Leclerc atm +contract extension, he will drive with less pressure showing the best version himself

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Spoutnik wrote:
21 Apr 2022, 11:14
Happy for him. Far behind Leclerc atm +contract extension, he will drive with less pressure showing the best version himself
Well deserved!! Great!! Far behind Leclerc atm?? I don't think so.
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Yes! So happy. For me, Charles + Sainz, and Binotto + Mekies and David Sanchez + Enrico Cardille + Enrico Gualtieri is PEAK.

That right there is the dream team people. Soak it up. FORZA FERRARI!

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Very good decision from both parties. With that piece off the head, hope Sainz can come hard now.

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Wouter wrote:
21 Apr 2022, 11:23
Spoutnik wrote:
21 Apr 2022, 11:14
Happy for him. Far behind Leclerc atm +contract extension, he will drive with less pressure showing the best version himself
Well deserved!! Great!! Far behind Leclerc atm?? I don't think so.
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Would love to see Carlos celebrating with a win this weekend!! Vamos!!
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[Giuliano Duchessa] Ferrari: introduction of PU2 (new reinforced ICE) on the car of Carlos Sainz. The old PU is in Maranello for a precautionary check, but will be available for the next GPs

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SSScoffee wrote:
21 Apr 2022, 19:08
https://twitter.com/GiulyDuchessa/statu ... BLc6R-atEQ

[Giuliano Duchessa] Ferrari: introduction of PU2 (new reinforced ICE) on the car of Carlos Sainz. The old PU is in Maranello for a precautionary check, but will be available for the next GPs
now the question is if it'll be turned up to the claimed +10 hp