Ferrari F1-75

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carisi2k wrote:
26 Apr 2022, 00:38
Agreed, there should be no updates permitted to the Ferrari power unit except for the electronics side which will be frozen in September.
I think that there is some small area that can be changed on the ICE:

manufacturing, slight changes in the alloys used, different surface (nano)treatments

also they now have more parts to cherry pick the best ones (PU are out of budget cap)

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S D wrote:
28 Apr 2022, 14:24
This looks like an opportunity to do a better job?
Well, every team is trying to do a better job over the season.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Are these pictures from Barcelona testing? How old are these pictures?

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Andi76 wrote:
26 Apr 2022, 06:37
carisi2k wrote:
26 Apr 2022, 00:38
mzso wrote:
24 Apr 2022, 17:33
What "spec 2"? There can be no more specs because of homologation.
Agreed, there should be no updates permitted to the Ferrari power unit except for the electronics side which will be frozen in September.
Like i already said - Ferrari can still make updates in several areas, not only electronics. There is also energy store and MGU-K. It is still permitted to do updates on these parts untill Aug. 31st, too. So still a lot of room for developement. Its "only" ICE, MGU-H, turbo, exhaust-system, fuel and engine-oil-specification thats already frozen.
Well, the talk was about torque curve and rpm (which you actually quoted) so about the ICE.
But anyway, if they are planning to deploy a new PU it would be insane to homologate the final updates right now, with four months remaining.

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mzso wrote:
28 Apr 2022, 17:09
Andi76 wrote:
26 Apr 2022, 06:37
carisi2k wrote:
26 Apr 2022, 00:38

Agreed, there should be no updates permitted to the Ferrari power unit except for the electronics side which will be frozen in September.
Like i already said - Ferrari can still make updates in several areas, not only electronics. There is also energy store and MGU-K. It is still permitted to do updates on these parts untill Aug. 31st, too. So still a lot of room for developement. Its "only" ICE, MGU-H, turbo, exhaust-system, fuel and engine-oil-specification thats already frozen.
Well, the talk was about torque curve and rpm (which you actually quoted) so about the ICE.
But anyway, if they are planning to deploy a new PU it would be insane to homologate the final updates right now, with four months remaining.
Engine-Electronics can also be used to influence the torque curve. Indeed its a pretty common way to do it.

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Fer.Fan wrote:
28 Apr 2022, 17:01
Are these pictures from Barcelona testing? How old are these pictures?
No, it's from Imola during Pirelli tyres testing (drivers numbers with yellow/white borders were added in Saudi Arabia I think :) )

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dialtone wrote:
26 Apr 2022, 18:20
AR3-GP wrote:
26 Apr 2022, 15:57
dialtone wrote:
26 Apr 2022, 15:55

That post said they would bring the new one earlier than September not that they already homologated it.
Thanks for pointing this out. I have recalled incorrectly.


It it claimed that they will deploy the electrical 2022 spec in May between Miami and Barcelona.
https://www.planetf1.com/news/ferrari-e ... rades-may/
I think it's possible that this site confused bringing the new 2nd ICE version of the engine in those races, with them bringing a new ERS, because they couldn't explain how they would get the new power from the engine with ICE homologated.

ITalian motorsport is now reporting, that Ferrari will have the new ERS system in Miami, with full ICE power, and new rear wing.

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... /10246930/
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Vanja #66 wrote:
28 Apr 2022, 16:32
S D wrote:
28 Apr 2022, 14:24
This looks like an opportunity to do a better job?
Well, every team is trying to do a better job over the season.
Forgive me, I should have been clearer. I meant on the floor analysis video.

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Vanja #66 wrote:
28 Apr 2022, 16:32
S D wrote:
28 Apr 2022, 14:24
This looks like an opportunity to do a better job?
Well, every team is trying to do a better job over the season.
I think SD was asking you to do it :lol:
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AR3-GP wrote:
28 Apr 2022, 18:36
dialtone wrote:
26 Apr 2022, 18:20
AR3-GP wrote:
26 Apr 2022, 15:57


Thanks for pointing this out. I have recalled incorrectly.


It it claimed that they will deploy the electrical 2022 spec in May between Miami and Barcelona.
https://www.planetf1.com/news/ferrari-e ... rades-may/
I think it's possible that this site confused bringing the new 2nd ICE version of the engine in those races, with them bringing a new ERS, because they couldn't explain how they would get the new power from the engine with ICE homologated.

ITalian motorsport is now reporting, that Ferrari will have the new ERS system in Miami, with full ICE power, and new rear wing.

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... /10246930/
With them testing a new floor at Imola i have a hard time understanding what's taking so long for race introduction, the team might be going too far in the opposite direction(caution).

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Doesn't this just eliminate the suspension at high speeds? Doesn't that cause serious drivebility/performance issues?
How is it better then a plain dumb bump stop that people keep bringing up?

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Spoutnik wrote:
28 Apr 2022, 19:08
Well, they have a sample of one. Sainz ran full two races less. But I guess that should be enough to verify.

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No suspension parts are atached to the gearbox (casing/housing) proper, All sispension mounting point and so atachments goes on the gearbox 'outer' casing including the gearbox which goes inside the outer casing.

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28 Apr 2022, 11:32
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