2022 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal, June 17 - 19

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
18 Jun 2022, 17:54
wogx wrote:
18 Jun 2022, 15:50

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Yup Vettel should have though that one through a bit more. Lol.
No, Vettel should not "think it through more". People, like these politicians, would be wise to stop conflating issues with voices, and voices only being valid if cleaner than clean. We are all hypocrites in some ways, we are all flawed, and invalidating opinions based on any flaw is just a really, really bad way to deflect from the issue.

Is Vettel driving for a team that is sponsored by Aramco? Yes.

Does that mean Vettel having any opinion on climate change, oil or the like is wrong? No.

Will these tweets find people fawning over the responses because they are simple and don't hold the necessary capacity to think beyond 160 characters? Yes.

Vettel should continue to call out climate change issues, human rights issues, whatever issues he wants to if he geneuinly believes in them and wants to progress the human race. He has a great platform to raise awareness and get people talking about them, and that can only be a positive thing.
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If we have a wet quali, and it dries up prior to the race....are they allowed to make setup changes? Or is it just basic wing adjustments?
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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chrisc90 wrote:If we have a wet quali, and it dries up prior to the race....are they allowed to make setup changes? Or is it just basic wing adjustments?
No changes allowed. Like none were allowed in Imola.

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Big Tea wrote:
18 Jun 2022, 00:08
chrisc90 wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 23:54
Big Tea wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 23:42


Not much. It was not that close but Ferrari pulled out in Mclaren path.
Before that with the burn outs? After the pit exit line.
Sorry, I missed that too. Saw nothing
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Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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hopefully we'll get a bit of running at all in FP3. In Imola Ferrari looked strong in the wet. Let's see if they (well, Sainz - don't think Leclerc will risk much today) can confirm that

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dialtone wrote:
18 Jun 2022, 18:50
chrisc90 wrote:If we have a wet quali, and it dries up prior to the race....are they allowed to make setup changes? Or is it just basic wing adjustments?
No changes allowed. Like none were allowed in Imola.
Thanks.

Guess this depends on the weather tomorrow whether teams chose a setup geo more suited to the wet, or the dry come qualifying.
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SiLo wrote:
18 Jun 2022, 18:47
Is Vettel driving for a team that is sponsored by Aramco? Yes.

Does that mean Vettel having any opinion on climate change, oil or the like is wrong? No.
As long as the sponsors don't take offence, but usually contradicting your sponsors is not the done thing in motor racing. It seems Vettel has been given free reign and permission by Aston Martin and Lawrence Stroll to do so, but I imagine junior drivers would be more cautious about such things. I couldn't imagine team owners like Roger Penske to allow drivers to in-effect condemn the products of their sponsors.

You don't see Massa getting out of the Marlboro Ferrari and saying "don't forget smoking causes cancer" or Norris or Ricciardo getting out of the Vuse McLaren and saying "the jury is still out on the risks of vaping, please exercise caution when considering non-cigarette nicotine products" nor Perez or Verstappen saying "excessive consumption of energy drinks has been linked to various chronic health conditions" nor Alonso getting out of the Alpine Castrol car and condemning BP for the Gulf of Mexico oil spill (or even Alonso condemning non-specific oil companies for oil spills).
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Will it be raining in quali as well?

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Looks pretty wet out there
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Michelangelo wrote:
18 Jun 2022, 19:04
Will it be raining in quali as well?
rain looks more likely to stop before the start of Qualifying, but should still be wet, at least for the early parts of it

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Mercedes to remove second floor stay amid F1 protest threat

Mercedes has chosen to remove the second floor stay on its Formula 1 car, amid questions from rivals at the Canadian Grand Prix about whether or not the addition could be protested.

In the wake of a technical directive from the FIA on the eve of the Montreal weekend to help reduce porpoising, F1 teams were advised they could add a second stay to help stiffen their floor.

Mercedes was the only outfit that elected to go down that route, as it trialled an interim solution on George Russell's car during Friday free practice.

But Mercedes' actions caught the attention of rival teams, who questioned whether or not the FIA had followed the right processes in allowing the extra stay to be fitted.

Although the FIA has the right to change the regulations unilaterally on safety grounds, that process had not been followed through by the rules actually being altered for the Montreal weekend.

That meant in theory the advisory TD allowing a second stay went against the technical regulations, which limits teams to a single stay.

Some of Mercedes' rivals believed that if the team ran the stay in qualifying and the race, then there could be grounds for the team to be protested, as the rules did not match the TD advisory.
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search wrote:
18 Jun 2022, 19:06
Michelangelo wrote:
18 Jun 2022, 19:04
Will it be raining in quali as well?
rain looks more likely to stop before the start of Qualifying, but should still be wet, at least for the early parts of it
Thanks.
I hope it will be dry in quali, Q3 at least.

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Charles starting from the back confirmed
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chrisc90 wrote:
18 Jun 2022, 18:54
Big Tea wrote:
18 Jun 2022, 00:08
chrisc90 wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 23:54


Before that with the burn outs? After the pit exit line.
Sorry, I missed that too. Saw nothing
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNYAebHg/?k=1

To the credit of TikTok
Thanks
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Wouter wrote:
18 Jun 2022, 19:08
Mercedes to remove second floor stay amid F1 protest threat

Mercedes has chosen to remove the second floor stay on its Formula 1 car, amid questions from rivals at the Canadian Grand Prix about whether or not the addition could be protested.

In the wake of a technical directive from the FIA on the eve of the Montreal weekend to help reduce porpoising, F1 teams were advised they could add a second stay to help stiffen their floor.

Mercedes was the only outfit that elected to go down that route, as it trialled an interim solution on George Russell's car during Friday free practice.

But Mercedes' actions caught the attention of rival teams, who questioned whether or not the FIA had followed the right processes in allowing the extra stay to be fitted.

Although the FIA has the right to change the regulations unilaterally on safety grounds, that process had not been followed through by the rules actually being altered for the Montreal weekend.

That meant in theory the advisory TD allowing a second stay went against the technical regulations, which limits teams to a single stay.

Some of Mercedes' rivals believed that if the team ran the stay in qualifying and the race, then there could be grounds for the team to be protested, as the rules did not match the TD advisory.
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https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/merce ... /10324534/


https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/amp ... etail.webp
Knowing the detrimental aero affects/efficiency of a wire/thin round stay I would say….

Why not just build a thicker floor (intrinsically stiffer), a 5mm thicker floor (using thicker fill material between the carbon skins) would have a less detrimental aero effect than two small round stays.
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