I didn't say he will get Verstappen, cause he know how to be gentle and fast with the tyre contrary to Perez.
Yep. Seriously lacking pace to the top boys on Ferrari and red bull. Max and Charles pulled 1second a lap over Hamilton at the start of the race. That’s not just the 3 tenths that the team reckon, that’s a monstrous difference.De Jokke wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 22:44Best chance but still the merc's pace will not be enough, I'm afraid...Spoutnik wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 21:53Races are often crazy in Hungary. Lewis is the specialist out there for pole, and SC will play a role.Tvetovnato wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 21:48Judging by the pace in Silverstone and Austria, it feels like Merc underperformed here, so chances are they might find a bit of pace on single laps again in Budapest with some added upgrades as well. But still, with a straight forward race, Verstappen and Leclerc are miles ahead. Max was controlling his pace today and still pulled a gap, so 3rd is the best to hope for until some serious gains are on the table from upgrades.
Best chance of race win with the current package imo.
The goal posts keep being moved. First the win would come in Silverstone, then France.... Now Hungary?De Jokke wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 22:44Best chance but still the merc's pace will not be enough, I'm afraid...Spoutnik wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 21:53Races are often crazy in Hungary. Lewis is the specialist out there for pole, and SC will play a role.Tvetovnato wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 21:48Judging by the pace in Silverstone and Austria, it feels like Merc underperformed here, so chances are they might find a bit of pace on single laps again in Budapest with some added upgrades as well. But still, with a straight forward race, Verstappen and Leclerc are miles ahead. Max was controlling his pace today and still pulled a gap, so 3rd is the best to hope for until some serious gains are on the table from upgrades.
Best chance of race win with the current package imo.
Well not enough Ferraris and Red Bulls break down.napoleon1981 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 23:06The goal posts keep being moved. First the win would come in Silverstone, then France.... Now Hungary?
He was holding back Perez in a faster car, of course, which wouldn't have helped his pace compared to the two at the front that were both going flat out. Once Perez was broken and started to drop back, the gap between Hamilton and the front two averaged out at about 0.5s per lap - 7s at the end of lap 15. for example. That's still too much to fight for a win, of course.chrisc90 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 23:02Yep. Seriously lacking pace to the top boys on Ferrari and red bull. Max and Charles pulled 1second a lap over Hamilton at the start of the race. That’s not just the 3 tenths that the team reckon, that’s a monstrous difference.
Lewis did pull a couple seconds back, but that was very short lived
Less slip means longer tyre life. Generally lower downforce has a lower threshold for slip, so you need to drive a bit slower in the corners to maintain tyre life with a low downforce setup. Higher downforce gives more margin for pushing in the corners without hurting the tyres.Sieper wrote: ↑23 Jul 2022, 15:13That wasn’t true last race for redbull (they had an enormous rear wing) and this race they went for less DF. I don’t think that “old” adage still is true this season with the ground effect. And Ofcourse wing settings arent the only factor for tire life/heating them up.
Honda had a "size zero" engine, so zero-pods is a justified name I would say!marcel171281 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 10:56The sidepods might be slimmer, at the top part anyway, but other parts are not. The engine cover higher up is pretty 'fat' and this concept also exposes the rear tyres a lot more. I don't think (but this is guess work, I am not a aerodynamica specialist) that was never designed to have low drag. It is designed to have more downforce.
I btw think that the term 'zero-pods' is pretty exaggerated. They are very different in shape, but they are still very much there:
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I calculated just under 0.5 seconds per lap in the first stint. Not bad for a car that wasn't working. It might be within a tenth in Hungary!chrisc90 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 23:02Yep. Seriously lacking pace to the top boys on Ferrari and red bull. Max and Charles pulled 1second a lap over Hamilton at the start of the race. That’s not just the 3 tenths that the team reckon, that’s a monstrous difference.
Lewis did pull a couple seconds back, but that was very short lived
How do you get to .5secs when the gap at lap 10 was 10-11seconds? I’m sure on lap 6 it was 6 seconds tooPlatinumZealot wrote: ↑25 Jul 2022, 00:28I calculated just under 0.5 seconds per lap in the first stint. Not bad for a car that wasn't working. It might be within a tenth in Hungary!chrisc90 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 23:02Yep. Seriously lacking pace to the top boys on Ferrari and red bull. Max and Charles pulled 1second a lap over Hamilton at the start of the race. That’s not just the 3 tenths that the team reckon, that’s a monstrous difference.
Lewis did pull a couple seconds back, but that was very short lived
chrisc90 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2022, 00:44How do you get to .5secs when the gap at lap 10 was 10-11seconds? I’m sure on lap 6 it was 6 seconds tooPlatinumZealot wrote: ↑25 Jul 2022, 00:28I calculated just under 0.5 seconds per lap in the first stint. Not bad for a car that wasn't working. It might be within a tenth in Hungary!chrisc90 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2022, 23:02
Yep. Seriously lacking pace to the top boys on Ferrari and red bull. Max and Charles pulled 1second a lap over Hamilton at the start of the race. That’s not just the 3 tenths that the team reckon, that’s a monstrous difference.
Lewis did pull a couple seconds back, but that was very short lived
Hammerfist wrote: ↑25 Jul 2022, 01:31chrisc90 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2022, 00:44How do you get to .5secs when the gap at lap 10 was 10-11seconds? I’m sure on lap 6 it was 6 seconds tooPlatinumZealot wrote: ↑25 Jul 2022, 00:28
I calculated just under 0.5 seconds per lap in the first stint. Not bad for a car that wasn't working. It might be within a tenth in Hungary!
The gap was around 6 sec by lap 10.
Once again your bias blinders make facts very blurry for you. Quite sad actually.
Doesnt change the fact that it wasnt 10 sec in 10 laps like previously mentioned by one of verstappen’s most ardent fans.organic wrote: ↑25 Jul 2022, 01:35https://i.imgur.com/oSBHgpY.pngHammerfist wrote: ↑25 Jul 2022, 01:31
The gap was around 6 sec by lap 10.
Once again your bias blinders make facts very blurry for you. Quite sad actually.
Interval column showing Hamilton 6s back at lap 6.
Between lap 6 and 15 when Max pitted the gap built slowly from 6s to 7.5s and then the gap between Ham and Leclerc was around 10s.