2022 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

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billamend wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 12:14
Lucky wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 10:59
I just want them to put the fastest possible car in my hands. And if that doesn't meet my expectations, that's fine anyway. My job as a driver is to adapt to this.
The best drivers think like that. Ricciardo should take note.
The other side of that is ....Understeer, not being able to rotate a car is a sign of a slow car.

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“Actually, I want to take a lot of momentum into the curve. So go down from the brake and attack the corner entrance.“

The 2023 Pirellis should support that…

Front end seems to be the weakness over the last few years, It’s probably something they won’t be able to fix till new infrastructure

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mwillems wrote:
18 Oct 2022, 21:52
Swed3121 wrote:
18 Oct 2022, 17:15
aran.vtec wrote:
18 Oct 2022, 07:32
Cant wait for Daniel to get out the car so Mclaren can start fighting for race wins and the championship again...
Yea, if you’re talking about WEC championships sure, because his boneheaded insistence on not taking a lower grid f1 seat means he is not coming back
He's talking about Daniel leaving so Piastri can improve the team, not talking about Daniels future whatsoever :D

As for going to Williams, why is it bonehead? He's been in the sport for 11 years and has a very informed opinion about what it would take for him to stay in F1, probably a little more informed than the armchair observers with the boneheaded insistence that they know better of what he wants than the man himself! :lol:
If he was actually any good now he might have had the chance to destroy whatever teammates. He didn't stay in F1 because he is done. Better to leave F1 and maybe just maybe some team will take him in the future. Stranger things have happened.

He can't do well because of himself, not because he doesn't want to go to a lesser team. Yes he's been in the sport a while, which only means he doesn't even want to be in F1 in a lesser team being outclassed. Less experienced drivers would at least take the chance.

F1 is cutthroat and Riccardo was done as soon as he was getting destroyed by Norris. A lucky win is all that's kept the outside delusions of grandeur going. It's never easy to see likable characters fall from grace.
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Macklaren wrote:
25 May 2022, 15:24
No slowdown in commercial signings. We will need a digital billboard on the car with scrolling sponsors at this rate :o

https://www.mclaren.com/racing/partners ... rtnership/
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Zack doing Zack things… McLaren will introduce in the USGP a new form of sponsorship display… The digital displays will allow to change the sponsor “on the fly” (jokingly, one could ask for their sponsorship to be displayed in a particular lap if wanted), as well as the potential to display other information (driver, lap time, etc).

The display is extremely thin and weights 190g




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SmallSoldier wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 16:51
Zack doing Zack things… McLaren will introduce in the USGP a new form of sponsorship display… The digital displays will allow to change the sponsor “on the fly” (jokingly, one could ask for their sponsorship to be displayed in a particular lap if wanted), as well as the potential to display other information (driver, lap time, etc).

The display is extremely thin and weights 190g



Meh. It's just another added weight for very little gain.

If it doesn't directly make it go faster, it should be deleted immediately.

I often wonder how many sensors and wires could be deleted for weight if they were to go back to a more standard NA V8.

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Zynerji wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 16:56
SmallSoldier wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 16:51
Zack doing Zack things… McLaren will introduce in the USGP a new form of sponsorship display… The digital displays will allow to change the sponsor “on the fly” (jokingly, one could ask for their sponsorship to be displayed in a particular lap if wanted), as well as the potential to display other information (driver, lap time, etc).

The display is extremely thin and weights 190g



Meh. It's just another added weight for very little gain.

If it doesn't directly make it go faster, it should be deleted immediately.

I often wonder how many sensors and wires could be deleted for weight if they were to go back to a more standard NA V8.
There's a commercial side to the sport, I'm sure 190grams won't cause any issues. It's a great innovation.
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The moment you decide to go slower just to collect more money so you can go faster, you are now 1 hand clapping.😒

And adding 190g after removing 30% of the paint for weight savings is a bit recursive.

Maybe keep the paint, and put additional sponsors there?

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Zynerji wrote:The moment you decide to go slower just to collect more money so you can go faster, you are now 1 hand clapping.

And adding 190g after removing 30% of the paint for weight savings is a bit recursive.

Maybe keep the paint, and put additional sponsors there?
Sponsors where there regardless of color scheme, the car would be completely black and all sponsors would remain with white lettering.

Been able to attract new / different type of sponsors and bribing more money into the Team is never a bad idea… These won’t make the car go faster by itself, but it may allow funding for it to actually do it.

There is also a minimum weight in F1… What happens when you are beyond that threshold and there isn’t a need for additional ballast?

It’s new, it’s innovative… It goes with the image that McLaren wants to portray for its sponsors… Hard to find an argument against it.

For a team that was close to bankruptcy a few seasons a go, the 190 grams that it adds represent their weight in “Unobtanium”.

The day McLaren loses a championship because of 190 grams is the day when an argument could be made if it’s a good idea / investment… Until then, I will only say Kudos to the Team for pushing the boundaries


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InsomniRacer wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 14:50
mwillems wrote:
18 Oct 2022, 21:52
Swed3121 wrote:
18 Oct 2022, 17:15


Yea, if you’re talking about WEC championships sure, because his boneheaded insistence on not taking a lower grid f1 seat means he is not coming back
He's talking about Daniel leaving so Piastri can improve the team, not talking about Daniels future whatsoever :D

As for going to Williams, why is it bonehead? He's been in the sport for 11 years and has a very informed opinion about what it would take for him to stay in F1, probably a little more informed than the armchair observers with the boneheaded insistence that they know better of what he wants than the man himself! :lol:
He is a bonehead because if he was actually any good now he might have had the chance to destroy whatever teammates. He didn't stay in F1 because he is done and can't stand any more embarrassment. Better to leave F1 and maybe just maybe some team will be desperate enough to take him in the future. Stranger things have happened.

He can't do well because of himself, not because he doesn't want to go to a lesser team. Yes he's been in the sport a while, which only means he doesn't even want to be in F1 in a lesser team being outclassed. Less experienced drivers would at least take the chance.

F1 is cutthroat and Riccardo was done as soon as he was getting destroyed by Norris. A lucky win is all that's kept the outside delusions of grandeur going. It's never easy to see likable characters fall from grace.
What I don't get is why you think simply driving in F1 is a priority for him or should be a priority for him. Your looking through the eyes of someone who has achieved nothing in comparison. He's an elite sportsman and has been for years and is still better than many of the guys on the grid, but you think he needs to look at F1 with the eyes of someone who wouldn't get within a million miles of F1 unless he was given a ticket and told to sit on the grass, aka your eyes. Of course he doesn't and he;s not going to look at an F1 seat the same way :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Zynerji wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 18:53
The moment you decide to go slower just to collect more money so you can go faster, you are now 1 hand clapping.😒

And adding 190g after removing 30% of the paint for weight savings is a bit recursive.

Maybe keep the paint, and put additional sponsors there?
It's just going to be used in free practice and as a novelty is a way to get some extra attention in the team and the sponsors on the device.

It's not going to be used come qualifying or the race due to the weight penalty - but if there is some value in the concept perhaps they may become standardised devices in future so no-one would be at a detriment by running them.

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190grammes vs likely 0.5g for a bit of sticker.

Logical when you want to be light as possible.
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F1 is about money. The whole premise of the sport is money. 190 grams if you can spare it for a chunk of money, is entirely what the sport is about. It's never really been about being a pure sport, even with cost caps, like most sports outside of amateur events, tbfh.

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chrisc90 wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 00:01
190grammes vs likely 0.5g for a bit of sticker.

Logical when you want to be light as possible.
But it all depends on where the line for minimum weight is. If you are 1kg above the limit in 'normal' running, you work your nuts off for every gram. If you are 5g below it, you may as well use it as an earner as ballast.
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