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PlatinumZealot wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 03:24
organic wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 18:36
The Goblin wing has arrived!

Months ago I told you guys it was coming.
Why “Goblin” wing?
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I'm here to talk about how aggressive the tunnel entrances are, it's a terrible angle to see it but it looks far more interesting than all the other teams now.

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SiLo wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 11:31
I'm here to talk about how aggressive the tunnel entrances are, it's a terrible angle to see it but it looks far more interesting than all the other teams now.
Yeah they are aggressive. The most outboard strake now has a significant concave curvature in the lower portion. the shape of the outboard fence is now similar to that of the Alpine.

The big change however is the central floor fence (excluding the bargeboard-like one). It now extends far inboard and seems to be directing a lot of airflow away from the keel area

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Stu wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 08:04
PlatinumZealot wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 03:24
organic wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 18:36
The Goblin wing has arrived!

Months ago I told you guys it was coming.
Why “Goblin” wing?
That's jast how i got the leak at the time. Maybe it's one of those broken clock is right twice a day sort of of rumours but it sorta makes sense if we see how ugly this thing is.
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organic wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 11:41
SiLo wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 11:31
I'm here to talk about how aggressive the tunnel entrances are, it's a terrible angle to see it but it looks far more interesting than all the other teams now.
Yeah they are aggressive. The most outboard strake now has a significant concave curvature in the lower portion. the shape of the outboard fence is now similar to that of the Alpine.

The big change however is the central floor fence (excluding the bargeboard-like one). It now extends far inboard and seems to be directing a lot of airflow away from the keel area

USA

https://i.imgur.com/SYdq2BW.jpeg

France

https://i.imgur.com/XnInWX9.jpeg
It would be interesting to see, if change was made to the tunnels (shape, size, width,...) too.
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Stu wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 08:04
PlatinumZealot wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 03:24
organic wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 18:36
The Goblin wing has arrived!

Months ago I told you guys it was coming.
Why “Goblin” wing?
Could there be a connection?


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cirrusflyer wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 13:35
organic wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 11:41
SiLo wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 11:31
I'm here to talk about how aggressive the tunnel entrances are, it's a terrible angle to see it but it looks far more interesting than all the other teams now.
Yeah they are aggressive. The most outboard strake now has a significant concave curvature in the lower portion. the shape of the outboard fence is now similar to that of the Alpine.

The big change however is the central floor fence (excluding the bargeboard-like one). It now extends far inboard and seems to be directing a lot of airflow away from the keel area

USA

https://i.imgur.com/SYdq2BW.jpeg

France

https://i.imgur.com/XnInWX9.jpeg
It would be interesting to see, if change was made to the tunnels (shape, size, width,...) too.
Considering this floor is a modification of existing spare parts, my guess is there aren't huge wholesale changes eg adjustments to size/shape of tunnels significantly. Bonding on different shaped fences a little easier to achieve

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Big Tea wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 13:39
Stu wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 08:04
PlatinumZealot wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 03:24


The Goblin wing has arrived!

Months ago I told you guys it was coming.
Why “Goblin” wing?
Could there be a connection?


https://www.air-and-space.com/ficon/aff ... de%20l.jpg
Where is the rest of it? :lol:

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Big Tea wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 13:39
Stu wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 08:04
PlatinumZealot wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 03:24


The Goblin wing has arrived!

Months ago I told you guys it was coming.
Why “Goblin” wing?
Could there be a connection?


https://www.air-and-space.com/ficon/aff ... de%20l.jpg
I wondered if it was to do with the Green Goblin?
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Something tells me those strakes will have a very short shelf life!!

Very clever interpretation, probably works in conjunction with the FW end plate and outer floor strakes. These guys have been desperate for a bit of outwash all season!!
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Stu wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 15:14
Big Tea wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 13:39
Stu wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 08:04


Why “Goblin” wing?
Could there be a connection?


https://www.air-and-space.com/ficon/aff ... de%20l.jpg
I wondered if it was to do with the Green Goblin?
Should have mentioned that was called a Goblin because of all the 'spikey bits' as on the merc wing.
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Stu wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 15:14
Big Tea wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 13:39
Stu wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 08:04


Why “Goblin” wing?
Could there be a connection?


https://www.air-and-space.com/ficon/aff ... de%20l.jpg
I wondered if it was to do with the Green Goblin?
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Another angle of the new floor fence geometries

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Rear of the W13 floor

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Looking pretty patched up/makeshift