Crazy how we're talking about De Vries in a RB race seat when he's only driven 1 race for Williams and was outperformed by Vandoorne in FEGround Effect wrote: ↑24 Oct 2022, 13:35Sebastian Buemi was their reserve for years, never got back a race seat. It's more likely De Vries is the long term target for the Red Bull seat, if Perez leaves.
Seb wasnt a race winner and frankly never looked like a potential winner either. He was just another decent F1 driver like Hulk.Ground Effect wrote: ↑24 Oct 2022, 13:35Sebastian Buemi was their reserve for years, never got back a race seat. It's more likely De Vries is the long term target for the Red Bull seat, if Perez leaves.
First of all, Alain Prost finished 2nd in 1990 behind Senna, won a few races. It was in 1991 that he complained about his Ferrari, calling it a truck. Guess what? He still managed a couple of podiums, finished in the top 6 in the Championship, even though he retired in nearly 50% of the races and didn't even feature in the season finale in Australia. He also didn't get trounced by his less experienced team mate. The problem is, Daniel is under performing in his car, whether it's a truck or not. He's like Latifi in the horrible Williams, while Lando is performing like George, in same horrible Williams. Even if the results are bad, like with Fernando because of the car, you couldn't fault his performance, which is what Lando is doing, making the most of what he has. Daniel can blame McLaren for not producing a race winning car, but he can’t blame McLaren for his lack of adaptability, which Carlos managed to do. Unfortunately for Daniel, it appears he's surrounded himself with people who won't tell it like it is, maybe everyone in his management is a buddy and just there for the F1 ride as well. It's a shame cause he's a top bloke.djos wrote: ↑24 Oct 2022, 13:20Ask Alain Prost what he thought of his 1990 Ferrari, iirc he compared it to a truck!
Daniel is too nice to tell us what he really thinks of his McLaren.
Top drivers changing teams has gone horribly wrong before and will do so again (Fernando rejoining McLaren also springs to mind).
Sebastian never drove the Red Bull though, who knows how he would have performed. There wasn't much to separate Vergne and Daniel in STR.djos wrote: ↑24 Oct 2022, 13:40Seb wasnt a race winner and frankly never looked like a potential winner either. He was just another decent F1 driver like Hulk.Ground Effect wrote: ↑24 Oct 2022, 13:35Sebastian Buemi was their reserve for years, never got back a race seat. It's more likely De Vries is the long term target for the Red Bull seat, if Perez leaves.
He did win the FE title before Stoffel though. I mean, it’s possible he had F1 on his mind.organic wrote: ↑24 Oct 2022, 13:37Crazy how we're talking about De Vries in a RB race seat when he's only driven 1 race for Williams and was outperformed by Vandoorne in FEGround Effect wrote: ↑24 Oct 2022, 13:35Sebastian Buemi was their reserve for years, never got back a race seat. It's more likely De Vries is the long term target for the Red Bull seat, if Perez leaves.
djos wrote: ↑24 Oct 2022, 13:20Ask Alain Prost what he thought of his 1990 Ferrari, iirc he compared it to a truck!
Daniel is too nice to tell us what he really thinks of his McLaren.
Top drivers changing teams has gone horribly wrong before and will do so again (Fernando rejoining McLaren also springs to mind).
It makes total sense. You look at an F1 drive like its the holy grail, he looks at it like a fun job he's done for over a decade!!! Get over yourselfInsomniRacer wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 10:41Your post doesn't make any sense so don't know why all the laughingmwillems wrote: ↑20 Oct 2022, 21:32What I don't get is why you think simply driving in F1 is a priority for him or should be a priority for him. Your looking through the eyes of someone who has achieved nothing in comparison. He's an elite sportsman and has been for years and is still better than many of the guys on the grid, but you think he needs to look at F1 with the eyes of someone who wouldn't get within a million miles of F1 unless he was given a ticket and told to sit on the grass, aka your eyes. Of course he doesn't and he;s not going to look at an F1 seat the same wayInsomniRacer wrote: ↑20 Oct 2022, 14:50
He is a bonehead because if he was actually any good now he might have had the chance to destroy whatever teammates. He didn't stay in F1 because he is done and can't stand any more embarrassment. Better to leave F1 and maybe just maybe some team will be desperate enough to take him in the future. Stranger things have happened.
He can't do well because of himself, not because he doesn't want to go to a lesser team. Yes he's been in the sport a while, which only means he doesn't even want to be in F1 in a lesser team being outclassed. Less experienced drivers would at least take the chance.
F1 is cutthroat and Riccardo was done as soon as he was getting destroyed by Norris. A lucky win is all that's kept the outside delusions of grandeur going. It's never easy to see likable characters fall from grace.
Looks like the latest news is that he is staying in F1 in the background somewhere. The guy is burnt out by his own admission and doesn't want to race ANYWHERE. Tell me the part of that you don't understand and I'll reply.
Why would I, you're the only person making that statement?InsomniRacer wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 16:24So in your opinion F1 isn't the highest of racing categories. Care to share what you think is higher ranked than F1. This should be good.mwillems wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 11:08It makes total sense. You look at an F1 drive like its the holy grail, he looks at it like a fun job he's done for over a decade!!! Get over yourselfInsomniRacer wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 10:41
Your post doesn't make any sense so don't know why all the laughing
Looks like the latest news is that he is staying in F1 in the background somewhere. The guy is burnt out by his own admission and doesn't want to race ANYWHERE. Tell me the part of that you don't understand and I'll reply.
Fantasy. Perez extended for 2 years anyway until end of 2024.
That was before the extended F1 calendar was announced.Juzh wrote: ↑27 Oct 2022, 20:26Fantasy. Perez extended for 2 years anyway until end of 2024.
“Right now you’re basically [immersed in] it because we have so many races. We have simulator sessions before each event. We have partner events.
“We basically have zero time for ourselves and for our families. I have a couple of young children [with a third on the way]. I think if the calendar [expands] more, then I definitely will not do it.”
