2022 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

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BosF1 wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 18:47
djos wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 11:54
BosF1 wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 11:40


Could you stop playing the same record over and over again?
Ah yes, facts can be inconvenient can’t they! 🤦‍♂️
It really has nothing to do with that. I get your point and believe or not, I partially agree with it. McLaren hasn't build an easy to drive nor championship contending car, I think nobody is disputing that. But repeating over and over again that the car characteristics aren't to the drivers likings, does not change anything. It also does not change the fact that in McLaren's opinion Ricciardo has underdelivered, whether we agree or not. In the end they have most parameters to make a balanced decision and time will tell if they are right or not.
I’ll stop complaining next year I promise. I’m still broken up that the McLaren / Riccardo partnership failed so badly. 🥲
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Djos trust me the first time I heard that Daniel Ricciardo joined the team I was waiting for him to lead the charge to the front. Unfortunately the car only managed one victory and missed two more due to its max speed and circumstances in 3 GPs last year but took a step backwards this year. Daniel also could not repeat the form of Red Bull and Renault days. The same thing went with Honda.Some people simply kept blaming Mclaren for the terrible Honda engines and couldnt move on. Its time to move on.

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Are Speedcafe generally considered reliable?

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/11/01/al ... r-piastri/
Further details of Oscar Piastri’s ongoing position within the Alpine Formula 1 team are set to be decided in the coming days.

Piastri’s immediate future is therefore unclear, with the external impression that he has been benched prior to his departure to McLaren.

Officially, that is not until January 1 next year, though there are hopes from his new employer that it might be earlier – potentially as soon as the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix next month.

Securing an early release would enable Piastri to take part in the end-of-season test in Yas Marina, which takes place following the season finale.

“Our legal teams are discussing that now,” Alpine boss Otmar Szafnauer said when asked about a potential early release.

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Mostlyeels wrote:
02 Nov 2022, 04:03
Are Speedcafe generally considered reliable?

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/11/01/al ... r-piastri/
Further details of Oscar Piastri’s ongoing position within the Alpine Formula 1 team are set to be decided in the coming days.

Piastri’s immediate future is therefore unclear, with the external impression that he has been benched prior to his departure to McLaren.

Officially, that is not until January 1 next year, though there are hopes from his new employer that it might be earlier – potentially as soon as the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix next month.

Securing an early release would enable Piastri to take part in the end-of-season test in Yas Marina, which takes place following the season finale.

“Our legal teams are discussing that now,” Alpine boss Otmar Szafnauer said when asked about a potential early release.
Yes, they are.

They are an Aussie Motorsports specialist media org with very good contacts across the industry.
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I know Mclaren are working toward this, at least there being a chance of it. I believe they will at least try to get him into the 35M before the end of year.
It should also be noted that Alonso is driving with AM for the Abu Dhabi test, and Gasly is expected to drive for Alpine, so it will be pretty bad optics for them to buck the norm for apparent spite against one particular driver

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geogate wrote:
02 Nov 2022, 08:54
I know Mclaren are working toward this, at least there being a chance of it. I believe they will at least try to get him into the 35M before the end of year.
It should also be noted that Alonso is driving with AM for the Abu Dhabi test, and Gasly is expected to drive for Alpine, so it will be pretty bad optics for them to buck the norm for apparent spite against one particular driver
I don’t think Alpine cares too much about “optics” specially not when it shows them ruthless… They just want money to release Piastri early, the question is how much value does it has for McLaren, how much is the Team willing to pay for that.

Pato will be at Abu Dhabi regardless.

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Yeah exactly. Alpine won't have an issue holding on to him, irrespective of the contract situation, no one can begrudge them being upset with him and I don't think they'll care what people think anyway.

I don't think Piastri will make it to the season end test, but I don't think that it is a massive deal either.

Yeah it is nice to feel the car, but that is it for 2 months before climbing into a new car and acclimatising all over again.
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https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/95196 ... do-norris/

Clarifying Red Bull's position, Horner added: “We’ve spoken with Lando a couple of times over the years.

"But every time we’ve had a conversation, the next day he’s signed a contract with McLaren."

Probably for contract leverage… hopefully Mclaren have sorted themselves by 2025 or he will probably leave

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A good read on the behind the scenes to bring the upgrade packages that debuted in the cars in Singapore (Lando) and Japan (Daniel)… The changes were more than just aero, with the chassis been modified as well:

https://www.mclaren.com/racing/team/the ... n-upgrade/

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A great read, you get some impression about how tight the project management must be. Very interesting perspective on upgrades too, that they're more long term than just "bolt on a few parts and make it go a bit faster".

Gives you a feel for how much it would affect development if the drivers were binning the car too.

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Mostlyeels wrote:
03 Nov 2022, 20:39
A great read, you get some impression about how tight the project management must be. Very interesting perspective on upgrades too, that they're more long term than just "bolt on a few parts and make it go a bit faster".

Gives you a feel for how much it would affect development if the drivers were binning the car too.
It is underrated how much of a positive impact for the team has been to not have had many incidents on track… McLaren is the Team with the most laps completed so far this season.

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I noticed this hasn’t been posted yet… But it’s a great slow mo of the fastest McLaren PitStop ever :)


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Love the little off/on tyre graphics!

I have to admit, my favourite part of the pitstop is listening to the driver flooring it, ready for the getaway. :)

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Interview with Daniel the first 38 minutes. ( from 38 min. Kevin Nealon)

The Power of Dreams!