2022 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

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Big Tea wrote:
08 Nov 2022, 18:45
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08 Nov 2022, 17:54
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08 Nov 2022, 16:02


What if they did not need to be run at those temps? there are advantages of having sticky soft hot rubber, but once everyone has sticky soft hot rubber, there is no advantage over the others.
If the tyre operated at a lower range it would not suffer (so much) what fresh.
I"m not against anything but the 2023 tires they have been testing DO require the 100C operating temp. What was proposed, correct me if I'M wrong, was Tire blankets that only heat to 70C with a finishing agent that would fire them up quickly and/or the teams would have to deal with a warm up phase.
Yeah, it would have to be one or the other wouldn't it? Either tyres designed to work without heating or allow heating. It is a bodge up as it stands
I have no idea what the big deal is either way as long as it's safe. Not sure how much energy the blankets uses. The blankets are probably set at 100C. they probably need an hour to warm the tires up to the right temp? The energy used can't be more than 5 or 6 stoves per car, 12 hours per race weekend? That would be the most. I doudt they have all the tires in heating blankets during free practise. Probably just what's in the program and an extra set or two. You'd think Pirelli would want Real P-zeros on there.

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Didnt look too good of a evening for them. Russell clipping the barrier, Lewis hitting one and the engine dies at the end.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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diffuser wrote:
08 Nov 2022, 20:10
Big Tea wrote:
08 Nov 2022, 18:45
diffuser wrote:
08 Nov 2022, 17:54


I"m not against anything but the 2023 tires they have been testing DO require the 100C operating temp. What was proposed, correct me if I'M wrong, was Tire blankets that only heat to 70C with a finishing agent that would fire them up quickly and/or the teams would have to deal with a warm up phase.
Yeah, it would have to be one or the other wouldn't it? Either tyres designed to work without heating or allow heating. It is a bodge up as it stands
I have no idea what the big deal is either way as long as it's safe. Not sure how much energy the blankets uses. The blankets are probably set at 100C. they probably need an hour to warm the tires up to the right temp? The energy used can't be more than 5 or 6 stoves per car, 12 hours per race weekend? That would be the most. I doudt they have all the tires in heating blankets during free practise. Probably just what's in the program and an extra set or two. You'd think Pirelli would want Real P-zeros on there.
Sky were talking with the Pirelli guy at one of the recent races, the memory might be a bit foggy but I think they were planning on dropping the temp to 50c next year, but found that might not be safe. So instead 70c but limit the amount of time vs what they have been allowed currently. I think it's currently 3hrs but they are reducing it to 2hrs, they also found this saves more energy vs lowering the temp to 50c for the longer, current time. Someone please correct if I got the numbers wrong.

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Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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FTX is just the latest in unsavory partners that F1 has a culture of welcoming.
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Still seems to be raining in the pit lane Naomis put her hood up.

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Amateur from RUS; that replay is embarrassing.
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214270 wrote:
11 Nov 2022, 22:25
Amateur from RUS; that replay is embarrassing.
I wonder who he’s going to say turned in on him this time, what we all definitely know is that there is now way it was his fault

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Swed3121 wrote:
11 Nov 2022, 22:31
214270 wrote:
11 Nov 2022, 22:25
Amateur from RUS; that replay is embarrassing.
I wonder who he’s going to say turned in on him this time, what we all definitely know is that there is now way it was his fault
Ericsson :lol:
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It was a bit of a silly move flooring it, but easily done I guess.

The luck George has is however exceptional. Locked in 3rd place... job done.


*He 100% did not do it on purpose, I'm purely commenting on his luck.

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djones wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 14:36
It was a bit of a silly move flooring it, but easily done I guess.

The luck George has is however exceptional. Locked in 3rd place... job done.


*He 100% did not do it on purpose, I'm purely commenting on his luck.
The way the car was bouncing I'm not sure he had much control over where his foot was.
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Supercut:

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No idea why he didnt just get his head/bearings and drive down the road next to the barrier by rolling down. Total amateur flooring the throttle at that point on the gravel.
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That’s harsh, the tarmac out near the barrier (as well as the gravel he had just been though) were sopping wet.
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