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They issued a press statement saying both drivers have moved on. Perhaps that is what should be done here as well?gshevlin wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022, 23:09If Red Bull's only concern was the car, they would have said nothing. They can, however, see when one of their drivers is digging himself into a PR hole.
The reality is that there is a lot of family turbulence, and when a driver's parents begin making intemperate public comments, that will inevitably drag the driver's family into the public domain whether that is a good outcome or not.
Well If I am honest I find it hard to find an excuse for Ver refusal. But then again I don’t know what preceded it and what exactly was discussed before. So I reserve judgement until the details come out (probably in some biography 10 years from now). Until then moving on sounds fine to me.AR3-GP wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022, 23:29They issued a press statement saying both drivers have moved on. Perhaps that is what should be done here as well?gshevlin wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022, 23:09If Red Bull's only concern was the car, they would have said nothing. They can, however, see when one of their drivers is digging himself into a PR hole.
The reality is that there is a lot of family turbulence, and when a driver's parents begin making intemperate public comments, that will inevitably drag the driver's family into the public domain whether that is a good outcome or not.
In the grand scheme of things, it's all extremely inconsequential. Motorsport is about the racing and nothing else. The same people wouldn't have cared if Checo ignored a team order to let Max through. In fact, that's what they've been wanting all season. For Checo to get nasty with Max and probably crash into him would make them happy.Edax wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022, 01:46Well If I am honest I find it hard to find an excuse for Ver refusal. But then again I don’t know what preceded it and what exactly was discussed before. So I reserve judgement until the details come out (probably in some biography 10 years from now). Until then moving on sounds fine to me.AR3-GP wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022, 23:29They issued a press statement saying both drivers have moved on. Perhaps that is what should be done here as well?gshevlin wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022, 23:09If Red Bull's only concern was the car, they would have said nothing. They can, however, see when one of their drivers is digging himself into a PR hole.
The reality is that there is a lot of family turbulence, and when a driver's parents begin making intemperate public comments, that will inevitably drag the driver's family into the public domain whether that is a good outcome or not.
But there is one thing I am happy about. That ferrari was prudent enough not to issue team orders and Ves did not execute them. Because, really, team orders for 2nd in the championship, where is that going? Next 3rd or 4th is going to be a thing.
In the end I don’t care about who’s where in the championship, I care about good, fair and hard racing, not some game of motorized stratego.
. Wouldn't those people who said Red Bull are "cheats" be happy that Max stuck it to the team by not helping Checo in Brazil? "Evil Red Bull" and all?
Why does the photo rile you? Perhaps exploring this question is where one can find internal peace.
Do you understand what arrogance and passive aggressiveness is?
I would ask you the same question as f1cw
A dude on twitter expressed it better than me, in a response to the post in question no less.
I think you missed the point, this was not a comprehensive video of Hamilton crashes. This is just his signature rear wheel tap. I can think of way more incidents lmao.AeroDynamic wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022, 13:16chrisc90 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022, 12:41Tvetovnato wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022, 12:36
Absolutely untrue. Lewis either backs out of potential clashes with Max (multiple times last year) or they crash and Max gets penalized in all cases bar one. Lewis has no history of ”wrecking his rivals” when things get serious, unlike Max who even admitted to crashing into Lewis in the last race on purpose. It’s grasping at straws from Max fans to try and make Lewis look as awful as Max does in racing situations.
Seems a common trend. Is that not wrecking your rival? Rosberg Hamilton incident?
6 incidents over 15 seasons. Wouldn’t call that a history. Some of those clips are just contact and not anything else. I think max is around double that in half as many seasons. When people put the word “crash” into your name to refer to you and your ways, there’s a history. Maldonado was like that for example.
I would ask the twitter fellow the same thing because not everyone looked at the tweet and was "antagonized" by it. I can understand if some children below the age of 18 had not developed the emotional maturity to look at the past, but certainly don't understand the way grown adults are behaving over a photo in a sport league, compared to real life problems..... It's concerning.
I'd say it's no different than the people who always jump to Max/RBR defence no matter what they do. Or others who intentionally want a war, for example from the twitter thread.AR3-GP wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022, 03:10I would ask the twitter fellow the same thing because not everyone looked at the tweet and was "antagonized" by it. I can understand if some children below the age of 18 had not developed the emotional maturity to look at the past, but certainly don't understand the way grown adults are behaving over a photo in a sport league, compared to real life problems..... It's concerning.
Can I ask if you follow Red Bull Racing on twitter? If you generally don't like the team, and don't find their content to please you, then you can always block their tweets so you don't see them.