We are definitely dealing in speculation now, we’ll just have to wait and see.
That said, Christian and Helmet seemed thrilled to have Daniel back in the family, so they clearly still rate him highly.
Max and Marc two of the biggest names in motorsport honda are very lucky to have them.in a good year Honda could win moto gp ,f1 and indy a marketing dream.in a fair world the Honda name should confer a very high premium for their product because the do really participate in motorsport at the highest level for real.Bmw charges high for their m cars but where do they race,are people supposed to be paying for reputation earned 30 years back
I understand it's just some promotional Honda stuff. I just can't help flinching anytime an F1 driver gets near something that's not an F1 car because of Kubica...Bill wrote: ↑27 Nov 2022, 20:56Max and Marc two of the biggest names in motorsport honda are very lucky to have them.in a good year Honda could win moto gp ,f1 and indy a marketing dream.in a fair world the Honda name should confer a very high premium for their product because the do really participate in motorsport at the highest level for real.Bmw charges high for their m cars but where do they race,are people supposed to be paying for reputation earned 30 years back
Probably since the FIA first told them they were in breach. We haven’t had any updates since Singapore
No. Penalty came into effect on wednesday Oct 26th (date of agreement with FIA)
It wouldn't matter when the penalty kicked in. It would anyway hurt for a 12 month period. Whether RB spend all their allocated WT on air time within one month or twelve, it's up to them. There is no weekly or monthly allocations. So they can continue what they are doing and then adjust the spend a little more wisely.Alexf1 wrote: ↑28 Nov 2022, 15:49No. Penalty came into effect on wednesday Oct 26th (date of agreement with FIA)
https://the-race.com/formula-1/what-red ... itll-hurt/
"Of note is the fact that Red Bull’s limitation is valid for a period of 12 months from the date of execution of the Accepted Breach Agreement.
The ABA was entered into on Wednesday, October 26. That means that Red Bull’s new limit kicks in immediately and will be valid for whatever development work it completes in the final part of 2022."
This is why I'm wondering how far along a team usually is around end of October with aero of next years car. Maybe it was in Red Bulls interest to drag the process a bit in order to have most of the basic 2023 aero completed by that time.
Nope, WT time is allocated in ‘Aerodynamic Testing Period’ mostly lasting 8 weeks: https://the-race.com/formula-1/what-red ... itll-hurt/caddy wrote: ↑28 Nov 2022, 17:09It wouldn't matter when the penalty kicked in. It would anyway hurt for a 12 month period. Whether RB spend all their allocated WT on air time within one month or twelve, it's up to them. There is no weekly or monthly allocations. So they can continue what they are doing and then adjust the spend a little more wisely.Alexf1 wrote: ↑28 Nov 2022, 15:49No. Penalty came into effect on wednesday Oct 26th (date of agreement with FIA)
https://the-race.com/formula-1/what-red ... itll-hurt/
"Of note is the fact that Red Bull’s limitation is valid for a period of 12 months from the date of execution of the Accepted Breach Agreement.
The ABA was entered into on Wednesday, October 26. That means that Red Bull’s new limit kicks in immediately and will be valid for whatever development work it completes in the final part of 2022."
This is why I'm wondering how far along a team usually is around end of October with aero of next years car. Maybe it was in Red Bulls interest to drag the process a bit in order to have most of the basic 2023 aero completed by that time.
It might cost them a few upgrades down the season in 2023 or for the start of 2024 challenger, RB20, depending upon where they want to take a bit of hit. I don't think it would cost them up front in 2023 challenger, RB19. If they can compromise on late season RB19 upgrades, then they can do the usual work for RB20.
viewtopic.php?p=1104634#p1104634Alexf1 wrote: ↑28 Nov 2022, 18:45Nope, WT time is allocated in ‘Aerodynamic Testing Period’ mostly lasting 8 weeks: https://the-race.com/formula-1/what-red ... itll-hurt/caddy wrote: ↑28 Nov 2022, 17:09It wouldn't matter when the penalty kicked in. It would anyway hurt for a 12 month period. Whether RB spend all their allocated WT on air time within one month or twelve, it's up to them. There is no weekly or monthly allocations. So they can continue what they are doing and then adjust the spend a little more wisely.Alexf1 wrote: ↑28 Nov 2022, 15:49
No. Penalty came into effect on wednesday Oct 26th (date of agreement with FIA)
https://the-race.com/formula-1/what-red ... itll-hurt/
"Of note is the fact that Red Bull’s limitation is valid for a period of 12 months from the date of execution of the Accepted Breach Agreement.
The ABA was entered into on Wednesday, October 26. That means that Red Bull’s new limit kicks in immediately and will be valid for whatever development work it completes in the final part of 2022."
This is why I'm wondering how far along a team usually is around end of October with aero of next years car. Maybe it was in Red Bulls interest to drag the process a bit in order to have most of the basic 2023 aero completed by that time.
It might cost them a few upgrades down the season in 2023 or for the start of 2024 challenger, RB20, depending upon where they want to take a bit of hit. I don't think it would cost them up front in 2023 challenger, RB19. If they can compromise on late season RB19 upgrades, then they can do the usual work for RB20.