Mercedes W14

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Couple more photos from Fabrega

[Henk_v]

I just can't help but project Ferrari style sidepods on this car. It just would seem to be the only logical sidepod style. The merc and ferrari concept both rely on sucking in the diffuser air in from the side so that would be the fitting solution.

...and Toto would probably rather eat dogfood for the entire '23 season than to succumb to the RB philisophy

[cplchanb]

I just can't help but project Ferrari style sidepods on this car. It just would seem to be the only logical sidepod style. The merc and ferrari concept both rely on sucking in the diffuser air in from the side so that would be the fitting solution.

...and Toto would probably rather eat dogfood for the entire '23 season than to succumb to the RB philisophy

Or they could go with their own concept?!!
Merc has never copied the core aero designs from anyone. Just look at 2014 until 2021. In fact it's been the exact opposite. In 2021 almost all the cars were using the same narrow nose as they started with in 2015. Also zero rake still.

[Evo2racer]

I just can't help but project Ferrari style sidepods on this car. It just would seem to be the only logical sidepod style. The merc and ferrari concept both rely on sucking in the diffuser air in from the side so that would be the fitting solution.

...and Toto would probably rather eat dogfood for the entire '23 season than to succumb to the RB philisophy

Or they could go with their own concept?!!
Merc has never copied the core aero designs from anyone. Just look at 2014 until 2021. In fact it's been the exact opposite. In 2021 almost all the cars were using the same narrow nose as they started with in 2015. Also zero rake still.

Fully agreed. That is what Mb Amg engineers always did and it worked apart last year!

OT but I can’t wait to see the car on track today and see the rear suspension , front wing and sidepods. According to the team it should be almost the same as the w14 shown earlier but I am convinced the floor will be totally different .

Apparently it seems the front suspension was also re-designed but I didn’t spot the difference so far compared to the W13

[Henri]

Took ideas from ferrari and alpine

That front wing philosophy is nothing like Alpine's

Stop posting non-technical sources as though they have legitimate info

What legitimate info do you have than mr expect lol

[Henri]

I just can't help but project Ferrari style sidepods on this car. It just would seem to be the only logical sidepod style. The merc and ferrari concept both rely on sucking in the diffuser air in from the side so that would be the fitting solution.

...and Toto would probably rather eat dogfood for the entire '23 season than to succumb to the RB philisophy

Or they could go with their own concept?!!
Merc has never copied the core aero designs from anyone. Just look at 2014 until 2021. In fact it's been the exact opposite. In 2021 almost all the cars were using the same narrow nose as they started with in 2015. Also zero rake still.

True.. plus understanding the concept is more important

[F1Krof]

Longer wheelbase?
https://wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/415c519f2 ... 61fe87.gif

If size is the same it does seem like they have a longer wheelbase.



Via @Autosport (Twitter).

[Stu]

These intakes just keep reminding me of the 1990 Ferrari 641 all the time...

Do the pros on the forum think drag is not going to be an issue? I don't know so that's why I am asking...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... MOMA_2.jpg

I was thinking 640/641 era Ferrari. Definitely NOT 0-pods, far more volume available within. Blending of mid-wing into side-pod is interesting. Did the “non-continuous surface” rule stay in the regs for this year?
Certainly stronger outwashing. Merging the original concept with an actual pod (very similar concept to what RB are doing, just done differently).
Very clever interpretation of FW endplate, those legality tabs between the elements and endplate probably allow a more extreme (effective) version of last years idea (probably why they didn’t make too much noise about that solution being stopped for ‘23).

[Stu]

Longer wheelbase?
https://wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/415c519f2 ... 61fe87.gif

If size is the same it does seem like they have a longer wheelbase.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpAWw_0WIAA ... name=large

Via @Autosport (Twitter).

I’m not sure how, they were supposed to be on the limit of the regs last year?

[AR3-GP]

I think the “zero-pod” is a bit of an illusion on the W14. The W14 clearly has much larger overall sidepod volume compared to the W13. Look at the mid-section. Zero pod is dead.

[PhillipM]

It's still the same base concept just heavily refined tbh. They're still zero pods compared to anything else on the grid, which is why they got that moniker last year

[Venturiation]

yes it's still zeropods compared to others
here is the analaysis from bsport

[AR3-GP]

It's still the same base concept just heavily refined tbh. They're still zero pods compared to anything else on the grid, which is why they got that moniker last year

Not compared to the W13……the W13 really makes you go “where the hell did the sidepod go?”

The W14, not so much. They may be smaller than some other cars, but they are clearly there especially aft of the sidepod inlet, next to the enginee.

The W14 is a car with small sidepods. The W13 is a car with “zero-pods”. Look at the W13, the sidepod just stops! Halt!

The W14 sidepod is much longer and wider near the engine.

[PhillipM]

But that's countered by there being far less volume at the front near the floor.
If these had turned up last year people would still be calling them the same thing.

[mendis]

Longer wheelbase?
https://wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/415c519f2 ... 61fe87.gif

If size is the same it does seem like they have a longer wheelbase.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpAWw_0WIAA ... name=large

Via @Autosport (Twitter).

Wheelbase is now governed by the technical regulations of 2022. Mercedes had to reduce wheelbase last year to meet the maximum wheelbase length allowed. I don't see a scope to grow back within the regulations.