Vanja #66 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 12:48
organic wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 11:43
https://www.formu1a.uno/red-bull-ha-imp ... pricciosa/
****A source confirmed to us that the Ferrari SF-23 revved higher to limit harmful bouncing . Not ideal, however rather conservative the approach that is expected will be much more aggressive from free practice. The car can certainly be much faster than the F1-75
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The most positive factor, on the other hand, has to do with the efficiency gain, which has been significant. According to an opposing engineer, the GPS of the Ferrari SF-23 showed that it is potentially faster than the F1-75 by 10 km/h at the same load. Contrary to 2022, it is therefore possible that we will see SF-23 in better shape in Jeddah than in Bahrain. Meanwhile, the new rear wing - with more downforce - will be available for the race weekend , the front with an updated element design expected to arrive by Melbourne
How did they manage to make understeery car with that rear wing & also the new pirellis
All that sounds too good to be true to be honest. 10km/h for same load would mean a drag reduction and efficiency improvement of about 8-9% if the power is slightly above the level in 2022 Bahrain (so the same as Barcelona). Not impossible, but quite an achievement if true!
Also, that the front wing is the limiting factor... I mean, it does make sense from a certain perspective, seeing how Sainz was OK and Leclerc not really, but that would mean massive improvements from the floor.
I don't know, too good to be true in my view. Unless RB was carrying massive sandbags, bigger than anyone anticipated, in which case they have a lot more to show. In that case, this wouldn't sound too good.
According to Formu1a.uno (which doesn't mean is true/official) the PU had way more potential even compared to the first few races before they had to tune it down even more.
LM10 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 13:11
Xyz22 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 11:58
RB won because they had a massive advantage in the straights from race 1 of the season (on top of being a much better team overall), while the SF 23 won't have it over the RB 19, at least to the same extent. Moreover, the main issue of the RB 18 was the weight which is way easier to fix than an unexpected aero issue which involves the front end, one of the most critical area of the car.
Why are you being so pessimistic? In your last posts you’ve only been negative and saying things like the Ferrari team not being able to make improvements over the season and now you’re having SF90 vibes and thinking the car has some kind of an aero issue hard to fix. There is much more positive things in that article, but you’re picking one other part and interpreting a serious aero issue into it. The car is an evolution of it’s predecessor which was working more than fine. Why should the SF-23 have an aero problem?
Enrico Cardile told that it has more downforce than the F1-75. This already should be enough not to have SF90 vibes. Furthermore the SF90 even with the highest downforce setup just wasn’t good in corners whereas we’ve seen the SF-23 only in it’s low-mid downforce version.
It surely isn’t easy to solve an overweight issue by the way - not in the budget cap era. RedBull had to wait a Full year to bring the lighter car.
How can i be optimistic? Ferrari has not won the WDC since 2008 and has not been in the fight since 2012.
Leclerc looked disappointed after the tests, and now we have reports of an unexpected issue in one of the most critical area of the car, which is causing understeer.
Understeer caused by aero issues is quite hard to fix looking at past seasons. For instance, i remember the 2019 RB which was suffering from quite a lot of understeer, "fixed" only in Austria with a new front wing, and we are talking about the best team in F1, especially in terms of aero development over a season.
At this point i just hope is going to be like in 2018 where they found an issue in the floor they were able to fix it for race 2, gaining a huge amount of performance in the process.