2023 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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AR3-GP wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 06:39
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/183955/u ... mical.html

The budget cap penalty is definitely having an influence. They aren't free to experiment in the windtunnel as much as other teams.

If what we are seeing already is the case, I don't think the season is going to be straight forward at all for RB. They are at great risk of being out developed by Mercedes and Ferrari. Max will have to be driving within an inch of his life to maximize the early part of the season.
They keep crying about it, but in reality they just have to think twice about what they will be testing, especially in WT. :) They already confirmed they are now more efficient, so that was a between-the-lines confirmation they aren't hurt in a meaningful way.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Vanja #66 wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 09:55
AR3-GP wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 06:39
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/183955/u ... mical.html

The budget cap penalty is definitely having an influence. They aren't free to experiment in the windtunnel as much as other teams.

If what we are seeing already is the case, I don't think the season is going to be straight forward at all for RB. They are at great risk of being out developed by Mercedes and Ferrari. Max will have to be driving within an inch of his life to maximize the early part of the season.
They keep crying about it
They're not just gonna come out and say windtunnel nerf did f**k all now would they :D

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Juzh wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 11:19
They're not just gonna come out and say windtunnel nerf did f**k all now would they :D
Of course they won't, I just like pointing it out :mrgreen:

Full respect for how they manage it, they may be the best teams with simulation tools of any kind. They invested a lot in it and it shows. Other teams need to step up in simulation areas and that's it, no excuse will bring them closer by magic... :)
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Vanja #66 wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 09:55
AR3-GP wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 06:39
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/183955/u ... mical.html

The budget cap penalty is definitely having an influence. They aren't free to experiment in the windtunnel as much as other teams.

If what we are seeing already is the case, I don't think the season is going to be straight forward at all for RB. They are at great risk of being out developed by Mercedes and Ferrari. Max will have to be driving within an inch of his life to maximize the early part of the season.
They keep crying about it, but in reality they just have to think twice about what they will be testing, especially in WT. :) They already confirmed they are now more efficient, so that was a between-the-lines confirmation they aren't hurt in a meaningful way.
Well they were obviously hurt if they needed to become more efficient to maintain their status.

Even then I doubt they will not be affected long term. Sooner or later your development runs into a gully and you will need a lot of testing time to find the right path out of it. If everyone already knew what would and wouldn’t work in the wind tunnel we wouldn’t need them.

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The part about CoD 100% sensitivity is funny :lol: that's what I think everytime I watch onboards of Verstappen

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Spoutnik wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 11:55
The part about CoD 100% sensitivity is funny :lol: that's what I think everytime I watch onboards of Verstappen
I always thought Albon was better than he looked at Red Bull, glad hes doing well at Williams.
Felipe Baby!

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Parts arriving in brown boxes for RB... in the past this has meant upgrades

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organic wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 12:30
https://i.imgur.com/uGG3Jky.jpeg

Parts arriving in brown boxes for RB... in the past this has meant upgrades
My X-Ray eyes do see new mirrors in those boxes

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Excellent it's confirmed. Gpblog will report it within the hour

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organic wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 12:30
https://i.imgur.com/uGG3Jky.jpeg

Parts arriving in brown boxes for RB... in the past this has meant upgrades
What's in the box? What's in the f****** box!?

Also, why is that box levitating? This upgrade must be insane.

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Vanja #66 wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 09:55
AR3-GP wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 06:39
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/183955/u ... mical.html

The budget cap penalty is definitely having an influence. They aren't free to experiment in the windtunnel as much as other teams.

If what we are seeing already is the case, I don't think the season is going to be straight forward at all for RB. They are at great risk of being out developed by Mercedes and Ferrari. Max will have to be driving within an inch of his life to maximize the early part of the season.
They keep crying about it, but in reality they just have to think twice about what they will be testing, especially in WT. :) They already confirmed they are now more efficient, so that was a between-the-lines confirmation they aren't hurt in a meaningful way.
It baffles me people think the penalty doesn't hurt. As if RB don't already think twice about what to test in WT and CFD. As if their process was far from optimal and therefore a little tweak and improvement in the process could overcome the penalty...? I don't believe a team with such an inefficient process could design a dominant car like the RB18, in a relatively short period due to the long in-season development of the RB16b.

Ofcourse RB mentioned the are 'more efficient' now. But that's a bit of a hollow remark isn't it? It's just a statement to complement the team, and comfort the sponsors.

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Cs98 wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 12:54
organic wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 12:30
https://i.imgur.com/uGG3Jky.jpeg

Parts arriving in brown boxes for RB... in the past this has meant upgrades
What's in the box? What's in the f****** box!?

Also, why is that box levitating? This upgrade must be insane.
Well, It's not like they were expecting a second car to arrive? :wink: I'm not yet excited.

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Cs98 wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 12:54
organic wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 12:30
https://i.imgur.com/uGG3Jky.jpeg

Parts arriving in brown boxes for RB... in the past this has meant upgrades
What's in the box? What's in the f****** box!?

Also, why is that box levitating? This upgrade must be insane.
Its marked "Catering equipment" :twisted:
When arguing with a fool, be sure the other person is not doing the same thing.

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Big Tea wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 13:17
Cs98 wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 12:54
organic wrote:
01 Mar 2023, 12:30
https://i.imgur.com/uGG3Jky.jpeg

Parts arriving in brown boxes for RB... in the past this has meant upgrades
What's in the box? What's in the f****** box!?

Also, why is that box levitating? This upgrade must be insane.
Its marked "Catering equipment" :twisted:
2s per lap upgrade coming..

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It is just the second car. They need two full cars now. I guess all teams have brown boxes with their second car arriving these days.