2023 Aston Martin | Aramco | Cognizant F1 Team

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Front wing of tungsten carbide

[AR3-GP]

Front wing of tungsten carbide

That's the ticket under these new regulations. Bodywork toughness. Simplifying the front wings and getting rid of all of the "furniture" is one of the best things they did for racing. The impact of contact is reduced. Front wings don't break and fewer lap 1 pit stops.

[Alonsismo]

Front wing of tungsten carbide

That's the ticket under these new regulations. Bodywork toughness. Simplifying the front wings and getting rid of all of the "furniture" is one of the best things they did for racing. The impact of contact is reduced. Front wings don't break and fewer lap 1 pit stops.

i disagree, because 2018 front wings are one of my favourite F1 car parts of all F1 history

[AR3-GP]

Front wing of tungsten carbide

That's the ticket under these new regulations. Bodywork toughness. Simplifying the front wings and getting rid of all of the "furniture" is one of the best things they did for racing. The impact of contact is reduced. Front wings don't break and fewer lap 1 pit stops.

i disagree, because 2018 front wings are one of my favourite F1 car parts of all F1 history

I didn't mean it was better from a visual point of view. I just mean the new wings are very resistant to contact because there's nothing to break off.

The old wings had massive arrays of "furniture" that would go flying out and force drivers to pit, ruining their races. The new wings are simple and nothing happens when they make contact unless it's a big collision.

Both Alonso and Stroll had contact with the front wing and it had no impact on their race. In 2018, both drivers would have had to pit for damage after losing all of the "furniture".

[AR3-GP]

After listening to the post race presser where Alonso was asked to discuss the weaknesses of the car, while he didn't want to be forthcoming, he in a roundabout way hinted at the following issues:

1) straightline speed (not as efficient as RB, harder to overtake)
2) Power delivery (Despite the traction, Alonso had a LOT of wheel spin in 3rd gear in his battles, power delivery is not smooth)
3) Steering (A regular complaint of Alonso's at new teams He usually cites a lack of feeling in the front end).

[Miha_v]

After listening to the post race presser where Alonso was asked to discuss the weaknesses of the car, while he didn't want to be forthcoming, he in a roundabout way hinted at the following issues:

1) straightline speed (not as efficient as RB, harder to overtake)
2) Power delivery (Despite the traction, Alonso had a LOT of wheel spin in 3rd gear in his battles, power delivery is not smooth)
3) Steering (A regular complaint of Alonso's at new teams He usually cites a lack of feeling in the front end).

Great. Knowing weaknessess is the first step to improving

Anyone remember Alonso having a bit of difficulty after returning to f1 with Alpine? He was ok, but not great - until they tweaked his steering system to his liking. After that, he was his old self - really fast again. Considering how he drove yesterday I would have thought, steering is perfect already

[Redragon]

After listening to the post race presser where Alonso was asked to discuss the weaknesses of the car, while he didn't want to be forthcoming, he in a roundabout way hinted at the following issues:

1) straightline speed (not as efficient as RB, harder to overtake)
2) Power delivery (Despite the traction, Alonso had a LOT of wheel spin in 3rd gear in his battles, power delivery is not smooth)
3) Steering (A regular complaint of Alonso's at new teams He usually cites a lack of feeling in the front end).

Great. Knowing weaknessess is the first step to improving

Anyone remember Alonso having a bit of difficulty after returning to f1 with Alpine? He was ok, but not great - until they tweaked his steering system to his liking. After that, he was his old self - really fast again. Considering how he drove yesterday I would have thought, steering is perfect already

He mentions the steering is not there yet on this recap for Sky F1
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... in-bahrain

[diffuser]

After listening to the post race presser where Alonso was asked to discuss the weaknesses of the car, while he didn't want to be forthcoming, he in a roundabout way hinted at the following issues:

1) straightline speed (not as efficient as RB, harder to overtake)
2) Power delivery (Despite the traction, Alonso had a LOT of wheel spin in 3rd gear in his battles, power delivery is not smooth)
3) Steering (A regular complaint of Alonso's at new teams He usually cites a lack of feeling in the front end).

Ther is alway a compromise. Sometimes, one sacrafices top speed for tire wear. The more DF you run the lower top speed and less braking you're going to be doing coming out of straights. The "lack of top speed" might have been by design(setup). We'll have to see at a more obvious top speed track. Alonso was able to catch and pass Hamilton and even though Hamilton was able to stay in Alonzo's DRS distance for a few laps, he could never repass. The top speed seemed to be set just right, when you consider how high degredation Bahrain is.

[Bisonas]

Unfortunately we didn't got the chance to see his true race pace. Just glimpses of that.
He was behind mercs at the start managing and then battling. Then battling again, and when he passed sainz he was cruising as the red bulls did. So all and all we didn't actually see what he could do. We would have seen his true race pace, if he had cleared Sainz at the start running behind Lec at P4 after the first laps. After that at some point he would have cleared LEC and chase Perez. That would have been IMO a more accurate indicator of AMRs race pace and AMRs Tire deg in Bahrain.

[The Prodigy]

The Aston Martin stock jumped 25% today. Bought a shitload of AM stocks at 1,20€.

Make me rich Fernando!

[Alonsismo]

That's the ticket under these new regulations. Bodywork toughness. Simplifying the front wings and getting rid of all of the "furniture" is one of the best things they did for racing. The impact of contact is reduced. Front wings don't break and fewer lap 1 pit stops.

i disagree, because 2018 front wings are one of my favourite F1 car parts of all F1 history

I didn't mean it was better from a visual point of view. I just mean the new wings are very resistant to contact because there's nothing to break off.

The old wings had massive arrays of "furniture" that would go flying out and force drivers to pit, ruining their races. The new wings are simple and nothing happens when they make contact unless it's a big collision.

Both Alonso and Stroll had contact with the front wing and it had no impact on their race. In 2018, both drivers would have had to pit for damage after losing all of the "furniture".

yes, what you are saying is totally true

[NAPI10]

When AM will be bringing their first upgrade package? Any indication given by Krack or Dan?

Since this is a revolutionary design compare to last year ; teams focus must be on understanding the base line package , get correlation aligned with wind-tunnel data & then go for upgrade install.
Most probably by Baku?

[KimiRai]

When AM will be bringing their first upgrade package? Any indication given by Krack or Dan?

Since this is a revolutionary design compare to last year ; teams focus must be on understanding the base line package , get correlation aligned with wind-tunnel data & then go for upgrade install.
Most probably by Baku?

De la Rosa said the correlation is great from testing already. He was asked when was the first upgrade coming and he smiled and said he couldn't say anything.

[Egresi Tamás]

#AMuS Michael Schmidt mentioned that an Aston Martin engineer told him that they did not want to be as good as the RB18 but better. When the car was in the wind tunnel, they realised they reached all their targets & were so surprised that they thought they made a mistake.

"The AMR23 is actually better than the RB18, but Red Bull has also improved compared to last year (9 tenths), which explains the gap between the two cars now (half a second)."

Michael Schmidt mentioned that Red Bull lost seven (!) engineers to Aston Martin in 2021

[Alo_Fan]

After listening to the post race presser where Alonso was asked to discuss the weaknesses of the car, while he didn't want to be forthcoming, he in a roundabout way hinted at the following issues:

1) straightline speed (not as efficient as RB, harder to overtake)
2) Power delivery (Despite the traction, Alonso had a LOT of wheel spin in 3rd gear in his battles, power delivery is not smooth)
3) Steering (A regular complaint of Alonso's at new teams He usually cites a lack of feeling in the front end).

Great. Knowing weaknessess is the first step to improving

Anyone remember Alonso having a bit of difficulty after returning to f1 with Alpine? He was ok, but not great - until they tweaked his steering system to his liking. After that, he was his old self - really fast again. Considering how he drove yesterday I would have thought, steering is perfect already

Yeah to be honest, as good as Fernando drove yesterday, it seemed from the live timing, at times he could have drove faster if he had been more comfortable with the power steering etc. Stroll especially at the beginning of the race showed just as good, if not better pace than Fernando, but at the end of the race Fernando came good.