That's the ticket under these new regulations. Bodywork toughness. Simplifying the front wings and getting rid of all of the "furniture" is one of the best things they did for racing. The impact of contact is reduced. Front wings don't break and fewer lap 1 pit stops.
i disagree, because 2018 front wings are one of my favourite F1 car parts of all F1 historyAR3-GP wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 01:55That's the ticket under these new regulations. Bodywork toughness. Simplifying the front wings and getting rid of all of the "furniture" is one of the best things they did for racing. The impact of contact is reduced. Front wings don't break and fewer lap 1 pit stops.
I didn't mean it was better from a visual point of view. I just mean the new wings are very resistant to contact because there's nothing to break off.Alonsismo wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 02:26i disagree, because 2018 front wings are one of my favourite F1 car parts of all F1 historyAR3-GP wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 01:55That's the ticket under these new regulations. Bodywork toughness. Simplifying the front wings and getting rid of all of the "furniture" is one of the best things they did for racing. The impact of contact is reduced. Front wings don't break and fewer lap 1 pit stops.
Great. Knowing weaknessess is the first step to improvingAR3-GP wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 05:08After listening to the post race presser where Alonso was asked to discuss the weaknesses of the car, while he didn't want to be forthcoming, he in a roundabout way hinted at the following issues:
1) straightline speed (not as efficient as RB, harder to overtake)
2) Power delivery (Despite the traction, Alonso had a LOT of wheel spin in 3rd gear in his battles, power delivery is not smooth)
3) Steering (A regular complaint of Alonso's at new teams He usually cites a lack of feeling in the front end).
He mentions the steering is not there yet on this recap for Sky F1Miha_v wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 11:34Great. Knowing weaknessess is the first step to improvingAR3-GP wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 05:08After listening to the post race presser where Alonso was asked to discuss the weaknesses of the car, while he didn't want to be forthcoming, he in a roundabout way hinted at the following issues:
1) straightline speed (not as efficient as RB, harder to overtake)
2) Power delivery (Despite the traction, Alonso had a LOT of wheel spin in 3rd gear in his battles, power delivery is not smooth)
3) Steering (A regular complaint of Alonso's at new teams He usually cites a lack of feeling in the front end).
Anyone remember Alonso having a bit of difficulty after returning to f1 with Alpine? He was ok, but not great - until they tweaked his steering system to his liking. After that, he was his old self - really fast again. Considering how he drove yesterday I would have thought, steering is perfect already
AR3-GP wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 05:08After listening to the post race presser where Alonso was asked to discuss the weaknesses of the car, while he didn't want to be forthcoming, he in a roundabout way hinted at the following issues:
1) straightline speed (not as efficient as RB, harder to overtake)
2) Power delivery (Despite the traction, Alonso had a LOT of wheel spin in 3rd gear in his battles, power delivery is not smooth)
3) Steering (A regular complaint of Alonso's at new teams He usually cites a lack of feeling in the front end).
yes, what you are saying is totally trueAR3-GP wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 02:33I didn't mean it was better from a visual point of view. I just mean the new wings are very resistant to contact because there's nothing to break off.Alonsismo wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 02:26i disagree, because 2018 front wings are one of my favourite F1 car parts of all F1 historyAR3-GP wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 01:55
That's the ticket under these new regulations. Bodywork toughness. Simplifying the front wings and getting rid of all of the "furniture" is one of the best things they did for racing. The impact of contact is reduced. Front wings don't break and fewer lap 1 pit stops.
The old wings had massive arrays of "furniture" that would go flying out and force drivers to pit, ruining their races. The new wings are simple and nothing happens when they make contact unless it's a big collision.
Both Alonso and Stroll had contact with the front wing and it had no impact on their race. In 2018, both drivers would have had to pit for damage after losing all of the "furniture".
De la Rosa said the correlation is great from testing already. He was asked when was the first upgrade coming and he smiled and said he couldn't say anything.NAPI10 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 16:53When AM will be bringing their first upgrade package? Any indication given by Krack or Dan?
Since this is a revolutionary design compare to last year ; teams focus must be on understanding the base line package , get correlation aligned with wind-tunnel data & then go for upgrade install.
Most probably by Baku?
Yeah to be honest, as good as Fernando drove yesterday, it seemed from the live timing, at times he could have drove faster if he had been more comfortable with the power steering etc. Stroll especially at the beginning of the race showed just as good, if not better pace than Fernando, but at the end of the race Fernando came good.Miha_v wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 11:34Great. Knowing weaknessess is the first step to improvingAR3-GP wrote: ↑06 Mar 2023, 05:08After listening to the post race presser where Alonso was asked to discuss the weaknesses of the car, while he didn't want to be forthcoming, he in a roundabout way hinted at the following issues:
1) straightline speed (not as efficient as RB, harder to overtake)
2) Power delivery (Despite the traction, Alonso had a LOT of wheel spin in 3rd gear in his battles, power delivery is not smooth)
3) Steering (A regular complaint of Alonso's at new teams He usually cites a lack of feeling in the front end).
Anyone remember Alonso having a bit of difficulty after returning to f1 with Alpine? He was ok, but not great - until they tweaked his steering system to his liking. After that, he was his old self - really fast again. Considering how he drove yesterday I would have thought, steering is perfect already