Red Bull RB19

[mzso]

Guys, I think sorta double chassis would be quite obvious one for scrutineering to notice. Like Lotus 79 witch got banned even before season.

You mean Lotus 88, right?

By the way is such linkage between floor and suspension actually explicitly banned nowadays?
By which rule? And in what fashion?

[Big Tea]

Guys, I think sorta double chassis would be quite obvious one for scrutineering to notice. Like Lotus 79 witch got banned even before season.

You mean Lotus 88, right?

By the way is such linkage between floor and suspension actually explicitly banned nowadays?
By which rule? And in what fashion?

Would it not fall under 'movable aero'?

[mzso]

Guys, I think sorta double chassis would be quite obvious one for scrutineering to notice. Like Lotus 79 witch got banned even before season.

You mean Lotus 88, right?

By the way is such linkage between floor and suspension actually explicitly banned nowadays?
By which rule? And in what fashion?

Would it not fall under 'movable aero'?

Perhaps. Though it would be the most stable part of the car, relative to the road..

[Holm86]

You mean Lotus 88, right?

By the way is such linkage between floor and suspension actually explicitly banned nowadays?
By which rule? And in what fashion?

Would it not fall under 'movable aero'?

Perhaps. Though it would be the most stable part of the car, relative to the road..

That's the problem, it has to be stable relative to the unsprung part of the car, not relative to the road.
Active suspension was banned as a breach of movable aero regulations too.

[mzso]

Would it not fall under 'movable aero'?

Perhaps. Though it would be the most stable part of the car, relative to the road..

That's the problem, it has to be stable relative to the unsprung part of the car, not relative to the road.
Active suspension was banned as a breach of movable aero regulations too.

Okay. Though I'm quite sure active suspension was banned explicitly.

[clownfish]

Does anybody have any good close-ups of the sprung front-skid area of this car? I searched but could not find any.

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Does anybody have any good close-ups of the sprung front-skid area of this car? I searched but could not find any.

AMuS



Albert Fabrega



Best I've got right now

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Photo from Autosport of RB19 in testing with some good lighting to see the slabbiness and undercut

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what do we think? anything new?

I think it's a new low downforce wing.. looks similar to Spa RW in terms of front profile but with a more gradual/smoother transition to the endplate (similar to the difference between last year's bahrain RW and this year's bahrain RW) ie more spooned. The main plane is far too small to be the '23 Bahrain RW

Spa RW:

[Vanja #66]

Curvature of the leading edge (in YZ plane) looks to be the same on the Bahrain and Jeddah wings, I wouldn't be surprised if it's the exact same main plane with different endplates placing it at slightly smaller angle. Jeddah endplates, on the other hand, look to be exactly the same as last year's low-downforce wing (Jeddah, Spa, Monza, etc), so I think there's a lot of clever cost saving with basically no performance penalty.

[vorticism]

They again have the thinnest suspension arms this year.

Guys, I think sorta double chassis would be quite obvious one for scrutineering to notice. Like Lotus 79 witch got banned even before season.

More so i think there is clear intend to control flex that is stable and predictable in any phase of corner. Not as highly adaptable as many here are suggesting. Ofc suspension setup is tailored to suit around predetermined yaw, rake aero maps clearly. Remember such dynamics events are nightmare to control and simulate in CFD or wind tunnels. And furthermore such events become exponentially harder and as consequence you heavily restricts any resources available for any parallel R&D projects.

So stable platform is name of game if u will. That will give u "easier" environment too work with. As setups, simulations of such "simple" events will payed dividends in sense of more gradual improvements trough much bigger data throughput.

Maybe there is TRUE power of RB aero team. They know what they want. And they just chipp away problem by problem without too outlandish ideas (cought cought Merc) or outlandish loopholes (cought cought Ferrari) witch can and will get banned in any minute. They simply engineered efficient and balanced car.

+1 I think their secret is not in moveable nor active features, rather they have the most rigid floor in the field. Last year we saw how well supported it was; a distinction within the field. Others went with thinner floors with sparser supports and relied on long guy wires which are only strong in tension.

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Changes for round 2 - Saudi Arabia



Seems they were told off for their minimal explanations in Bahrain

Just circuit specific changes listed. Doesn't mean nothing else has changed though of course

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Small change to the floor edge wing geometry. Seems to be more cranked, aids extraction of the front floor



Scott Mitchell-Malm

[Vanja #66]

I think it's another case of different angles, it was there in Bahrain too

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqOD8zYXsAM ... ame=medium

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I think it's another case of different angles, it was there in Bahrain too

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqOD8zYXsAM ... ame=medium

You're probably right. I'll leave it as is until can find better angles that confirm old/new geometry