2023 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 28 - 30

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Just watched Russels onboard of turn 2 and his front wheels were about level with the rear of Max's coming into the braking zone.

Id say the rules say he isnt entitled to that corner.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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I saw the hole in the sidepod early on and was afraid it would rip off at 330kmh. Luckily Max could still finish.

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chrisc90 wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 16:24
Just watched Russels onboard of turn 2 and his front wheels were about level with the rear of Max's coming into the braking zone.

Id say the rules say he isnt entitled to that corner.
Buddy. =D>

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avantman wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 16:21
Juzh wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 16:18
JPBD1990 wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 16:16
Verstappen sounding like the ultimate sore loser cry baby man child for what was a relatively innocuous incident
Russell locked up almost destroyed his car, only because Ver left a boat sized hole on the inside prevented both dnf. So yeah, russell is a tool, I understand Max completely.
It shows that years he spent at Williams were complete waste. He didn't learn racing in midfield, fighting only the likes of Schumacher and Mazepin at the back. Now he often gets overexcited fighting at the top, wants to become a hero and beat big boys. Max was like that in 2015 and 2016, lol.
Still can't be compared, Max was like 18 years old back then, first few years in F1...

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LM10 wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 16:24
Qualifying done, sprint done and it already feels like the weekend is done. We already know the pace of the cars. No unknowns left for tomorrow’s race. Much less anticipation and excitement for Sunday. That’s why these sprint weekends are a failure.
There are always incidents here, but otherwise yes.

To me it also feels less than satisfactory. Like the normal format better.

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It was neither the best nor worst mini race.

Great result for street circuit specialist Perez and Red Bull-Honda! =D> =D>

One might call it a nicely executed routine Perez street circuit victory. :wink: (As opposed to the usual routine Verstappen victory at other types of circuits. :) )

Nice to see Perez, Leclerc and Verstappen pushing on (the latter not losing much pace despite damage) and there was closer racing in the midpack, which was reasonably tight and entertaining.

Nice steady drive from Piastri, showing that Alpine were indeed wrong to enforce an unnecessary one year sabbatical on the Australian ace.

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29 Apr 2023, 15:16
with half of the laps expected to be done behind the safety car anyway, softs should be fine ;)
Nope! Soft tyres did not go well at all, lol.
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Max being upset about people using his own driving style is hilarious :D other than that, borefest :/

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chrisc90 wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 16:24
Just watched Russels onboard of turn 2 and his front wheels were about level with the rear of Max's coming into the braking zone.

Id say the rules say he isnt entitled to that corner.
FIA clarification on the topic is:

When considering what is a ‘significant portion’, for an overtaking on the inside of a corner, among the various factors that will be looked at by the stewards when exercising their discretion, the stewards will consider if the overtaking non-Ferrari car is ahead of the other non-Ferrari car from the apex of the corner. Special Appendix IIb is reserved for discussing cases where Ferrari cars are involved.

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Max overtake at the restart was quite a nice moment too. In the midfield there was much racing going on, but for naught.

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Seerix wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 16:29
other than that, borefest :/
Didn't you see the three wide between Alfa Romeos, AlphaTauri (de Vries) and HAAS at one point IIRC? :)

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Juzh wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 16:25
Still can't be compared, Max was like 18 years old back then, first few years in F1...
true, wasn't trying to advocate for George. What a rookie mistake, trying to outbrake Max on the dirty side, on really dirty sandy street track on lap 1. Poor driving standards from Russell, 100%.

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dialtone wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 16:30
chrisc90 wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 16:24
Just watched Russels onboard of turn 2 and his front wheels were about level with the rear of Max's coming into the braking zone.

Id say the rules say he isnt entitled to that corner.
FIA clarification on the topic is:

When considering what is a ‘significant portion’, for an overtaking on the inside of a corner, among the various factors that will be looked at by the stewards when exercising their discretion, the stewards will consider if the overtaking non-Ferrari car is ahead of the other non-Ferrari car from the apex of the corner. Special Appendix IIb is reserved for discussing cases where Ferrari cars are involved.
It wasnt a overtake on the outside though. Max was on the racing line, with Russell's front wheel level(ish) with the rear of Max's wheels.

Even in the media interview Russell was surpised Max was trying to overtake around the outside....Yet Max was ahead so it was a overtake from Russell up the inside.

Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Ok let's banter. Max got punted wide and STILL made the corner? Seems like he pinched Russell and should have left more space...he clearly had more room on the outside if he GOT HIT and still made the corner. I think its his fault entirely. :roll: :oops:

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fourmula1 wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 16:35
Ok let's banter. Max got punted wide and STILL made the corner? Seems like he pinched Russell and should have left more space...he clearly had more room on the outside if he GOT HIT and still made the corner. I think its his fault entirely. :roll: :oops:
How can you be left space if you hit the wall? Thats a clear indication that NO space was left after GR sent it up the inside.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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chrisc90 wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 16:33
dialtone wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 16:30
chrisc90 wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 16:24
Just watched Russels onboard of turn 2 and his front wheels were about level with the rear of Max's coming into the braking zone.

Id say the rules say he isnt entitled to that corner.
FIA clarification on the topic is:

When considering what is a ‘significant portion’, for an overtaking on the inside of a corner, among the various factors that will be looked at by the stewards when exercising their discretion, the stewards will consider if the overtaking non-Ferrari car is ahead of the other non-Ferrari car from the apex of the corner. Special Appendix IIb is reserved for discussing cases where Ferrari cars are involved.
It wasnt a overtake on the outside though. Max was on the racing line, with Russell's front wheel level(ish) with the rear of Max's wheels.

Even in the media interview Russell was surpised Max was trying to overtake around the outside....Yet Max was ahead so it was a overtake from Russell up the inside.
Yeah I edited inside (although first version had outside). I'm also just joking, read the paragraph I wrote :).

But in all seriousness I do think RUS had no business being there, but there's no chance stewards penalize this, and only half joking that it's because he doesn't drive a Ferrari.