2023 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 05 - 07

[Juzh]

It just occured to me there was almost zero chatter about that clumsy chicane under those bridges. New tarmac and a bit of opening up on entry and exit somehow almost completely solved this universally hated sequence of corners. I dont remember a single driver complaining about it?

[Sieper]

Great race by Max yesterday. Really enjoyed it. In hindsight having to start on white tires, they way he made use of them, was an advantage. I found it one of his best drives.

[Gillian]

Can someone show me the way to the Miami GP race thread? Thanks!

[Wouter]

Can someone show me the way to the Miami GP race thread? Thanks!

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[CMSMJ1]

Locking for some pruning - budget and all that is not for this race thread


Now unlocked - go talk budget and caps in the FIA thread - think that's where a lot of it was before.

Race please..

[basti313]

It just occured to me there was almost zero chatter about that clumsy chicane under those bridges. New tarmac and a bit of opening up on entry and exit somehow almost completely solved this universally hated sequence of corners. I dont remember a single driver complaining about it?

Yes, it looked nice. It was surely still a difficult spot and actually brought together cars with different pace. Hard to get it right in Q. But in the race it was really a good spot.
I think the track even needs this. You have the fast corners in S1, the two long straights and the slow section giving some other spice, without it you would just have an overtaking issue that one can only overtake into T1 without being re overtaken.

[Francis Bacon]

Absolute turd of a season. Thought last year was bad, but F1 dropping an awfully bad stinker this year. Tight Imola, and the borefests of Barcelona & Monaco to come. I know the RB is dominant, but it really is an awfully bad calendar, especially in terms of the quality of tracks. Uninspiring. Uneventful. Dire

Couldn’t have put it better myself.

The dominance is one thing, but can happen regularly in each era of tech regs so is not new.

The worst part of all is watching these massive boat-sized cars looking clumsy and unresponsive under ground effect regs, the pathetic FOM TV coverage zooming in on sponsors gives us zero feeling of true speed or sound, a total lack of testing time for anyone to truly catch up to the front runners in development, and last but not least the pathetic DRS-laden, push button overtake era that has destroyed the art of defending as a car in front.

I’m totally disillusioned with it - I don’t think we’ve changed for the better at all.

Just like every season, it only lame if your focus is soley on the WDC &WCC championship fight (rarely is there ever one)

If we look at the rest of the field and what's going on, its one of the most interesting seasons I can remember...

[Sieper]

That wall the next turn just after the chicane, they all managed to stay clear of it and mostly nothing was left on the table. Only Hulkenberg had a big moment. I expected at least someone to hit it.

[organic]

That wall the next turn just after the chicane, they all managed to stay clear of it and mostly nothing was left on the table. Only Hulkenberg had a big moment. I expected at least someone to hit it.

I think yuki slapped his rear right there but the car was okay

[Hammerfist]

I can’t believe Perez was unable to open a gap with the mediums let alone keep up with Verstapen’s pace on 40 lap old tires! I don’t know what Perez was thinking during the race but that was embarrassing!

Any other driver from the top 5-6 teams (apart from Stroll obviously) would have opened a 10-15 sec gap with this car on mediums and would then close the gap to Verstapen on hards before Max pitted! I remember when Hamilton started from 10-15th Rosberg or even Bottas were always able to open a big enough gap to comfortably win!

Perez lost an open goal yesterday! This pretty much sums up his performance on any track that isn’t a proper street circuit…

Imo the medium tire stint on high fuel was tricky as there were too many unknowns and Checo just couldn’t chance it.

But once he got on the hards he should have been gapping Max like crazy. He just didnt do that and thats where he lost the race imo. The pace difference between the two drivers was bigger than its been all year in Miami. Worrisome for checo if hes serious about mounting a championship challenge.

[AR3-GP]

I can’t believe Perez was unable to open a gap with the mediums let alone keep up with Verstapen’s pace on 40 lap old tires! I don’t know what Perez was thinking during the race but that was embarrassing!

Any other driver from the top 5-6 teams (apart from Stroll obviously) would have opened a 10-15 sec gap with this car on mediums and would then close the gap to Verstapen on hards before Max pitted! I remember when Hamilton started from 10-15th Rosberg or even Bottas were always able to open a big enough gap to comfortably win!

Perez lost an open goal yesterday! This pretty much sums up his performance on any track that isn’t a proper street circuit…

Imo the medium tire stint on high fuel was tricky as there were too many unknowns and Checo just couldn’t chance it.

He didn't even manage to go as long as Alonso on the medium tire. When Verstappen arrived behind him, he could have done a final push, and let Verstappen waste his hard tires trying to pass him, but he didn't. Alonso stayed out another 5 laps iirc, managed himself even though Sainz undercut him, and then just drove around Sainz when he came back out of the pits.

Anyone who was looking at the practice sessions saw this coming.

[Juzh]

Alonso had some serious pace, last lap he did a PB while doing a lot of lift and coast that was faster than Hamilton's PB. Hamilton was flat out on strat 2 for last lap, still 1 tenth off ALO, and on mediums.

[AMG.Tzan]

Alonso had some serious pace, last lap he did a PB while doing a lot of lift and coast that was faster than Hamilton's PB. Hamilton was flat out on strat 2 for last lap, still 1 tenth off ALO, and on mediums.

I’m expecting the big updates Dan Fallows promised when saying this car will change a lot! This car and this team have so much potential…

[AR3-GP]

Alonso had some serious pace, last lap he did a PB while doing a lot of lift and coast that was faster than Hamilton's PB. Hamilton was flat out on strat 2 for last lap, still 1 tenth off ALO, and on mediums.

I’m expecting the big updates Dan Fallows promised when saying this car will change a lot! This car and this team have so much potential…

Indeed. In theory AMR should have an even bigger upgrade than anyone of the top 4 teams. If you know what you are doing, you're improvement is proportional to the windtunnel time. There additional hours are worth a couple tenths.

I wonder if they didn't start working on the 2024 car already.

[bluechris]

Alonso had some serious pace, last lap he did a PB while doing a lot of lift and coast that was faster than Hamilton's PB. Hamilton was flat out on strat 2 for last lap, still 1 tenth off ALO, and on mediums.

I’m expecting the big updates Dan Fallows promised when saying this car will change a lot! This car and this team have so much potential…

Indeed. In theory AMR should have an even bigger upgrade than anyone of the top 4 teams. If you know what you are doing, you're improvement is proportional to the windtunnel time. There additional hours are worth a couple tenths.

I wonder if they didn't start working on the 2024 car already.

I dont see them to gain significant something since the start of the season so a logical conclusion would be that they work allready for the 2024 car which will be correct IMO.
Go big for next year if you want to play with the big players.. no matter if you are 2nd or 3nd this year since RB is untouchable.