I wasn't around to respond.Andres125sx wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 07:51Any reason to raise this old discussion again?mzso wrote: ↑08 Jun 2023, 10:14You argued for it, constantly. You were throwing the strawmans of it being unfair, when everyone gets a 5s when they spin an opponent out of the circuit.Andres125sx wrote: ↑06 Apr 2023, 12:30
Stop the nosense yourself first please
Who said a driver should be allowed to do illegal or dangerous moves as long as the victim escapes? None, I´m arguing about the penalty impossed, none said he should have received no penalty, so please, do not use a strawman argument while you ask to stop the nosense
So if Ferrari don´t finish within the top four they should stop defending their rights, and renounce to competition? And you ask to stop the nosense on the very same post?
You know WCC position provides money and 12 points less might mean Ferrari collects less money for next season? If Ferrari can´t defend their own points, no surprise they´re second class team for more than a decade...
Dropping back several positions is tough luck, just like when an SC is called after you're the only one who changed tires.
They have no rights to break rules and go without penalty. Which for once was assigned correctly.
They had nothing to defend so their case was thrown out.
That still doesn't excuse Sainz. Only condemns the stewards. They didn't bother with backmarkers apparently, and allowed Gasly to swindle out of it thanks to the team and teammate. This is what was wrong.Andres125sx wrote: ↑09 Jun 2023, 07:51Maybe that is the reason you can´t remind in that race there was 2 more drivers who collided exactly the same (one was Albon I think), harming 2 more drivers, and they got no penalty at all. Sainz collided with Alonso on a part of the race wich was not considered race (didn´t count in final result), so none got any harm, and he received a 5 second penalty under SC wich is like a DSQ
No, not everyone receive a 5 second penalty for this, actually 2 drivers didn´t receive it, in the very same race!, and despite causing a harm to other drivers and teams, contrary to Sainz who did harm none, but was the only one to receive a penalti
There's no such thing as "not considered race", that's pure nonsense. He committed a foul, and damaged another car. They red flagged it and started again. By your "logic" nothing counts but crossing the the line with the checkered flag waving, because that is the only thing that counts for the final result.