2023 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[ringo]

Oh the old reverse jinx trick!
Don't worry, redbull 1-2 this race. The track will rubber in and they will be on the pace. Especially Perez. I think he has good race pace.
Max will figure it out.

[AR3-GP]

This weekend is dead on arrival. It’s embarrassing.

[organic]

This weekend is dead on arrival.

I can't help but think one of the TD has hit in a big way

Big balance issues, new upgrade not working, lack of grip

All of the hallmarks are there

[ringo]

This weekend is dead on arrival.

I can't help but think one of the TD has hit in a big way

Big balance issues, new upgrade not working, lack of grip

All of the hallmarks are there

Even with changeing the floor back to the old floor.
You could apply your investigative powers to redbull as you did mercedes. Haha
But a theory I have is the front wing may have been flexible.
The car has a lot of understeer now. Possibly the wing flexes for low load on the straights. But because it can flex no more the elements have 1 setting and that has not been tuned to the rest of the car. The wing also helps the floor entry.
But let's see. It's early days. They can sort things out the next race.

[AR3-GP]

Proper sh double I t.

[dans79]

Seems like 1 of the tds had a big impact!

[ringo]

What everyone will ask...
How much of this championship was atributed to flexible body work, as well as last years?
Max and Perez looking ordinary now. Not able to wring the neck of the car and put it where it doesnt belong.
The other teams could see this last half as an opportunity to get a few wins. But i suspect the car should be sorted out in a race or 2

[Juzh]

TDs or not, embarrassing performance all around. They had time to adjust and this is what they come up with...

Ver will start P14, may as well stock up on gearbox and engine components and start from pitlane, hope for SC ridden race.

[napoleon1981]

What everyone will ask...
How much of this championship was atributed to flexible body work, as well as last years?
Max and Perez looking ordinary now. Not able to wring the neck of the car and put it where it doesnt belong.
The other teams could see this last half as an opportunity to get a few wins. But i suspect the car should be sorted out in a race or 2

I dont think what we are seeing today is due to flexible bodywork. Seems like they just couldnt turn the tire on.

[ringo]

TDs or not, embarrassing performance all around. They had time to adjust and this is what they come up with...

The drivers would need to recalibrate what they expect under braking and turning so i think they did what they could. The car went from dominant and telepathic to unpredictable. It's shocking as Max said. The drivers would have zero confidence. Puts perspective on those other guys driving the dogs.

[AR3-GP]

TDs or not, embarrassing performance all around. They had time to adjust and this is what they come up with...

The drivers would need to recalibrate what they expect under braking and turning so i think they did what they could. The car went from dominant and telepathic to unpredictable. It's shocking as Max said. The drivers would have zero confidence. Puts perspective on those other guys driving the dogs.

Do you think the other teams have made a mistake trying to copy the RB?

[ringo]

TDs or not, embarrassing performance all around. They had time to adjust and this is what they come up with...

The drivers would need to recalibrate what they expect under braking and turning so i think they did what they could. The car went from dominant and telepathic to unpredictable. It's shocking as Max said. The drivers would have zero confidence. Puts perspective on those other guys driving the dogs.

Do you think the other teams have made a mistake trying to copy the RB?

That's a huge problem. Copying a car that needs flexing to work.
Mclaren seem to hav found a nice middle ground. Ferrari will need to scrap the 2024 redbull copy.

[Sieper]

What everyone will ask...
How much of this championship was atributed to flexible body work, as well as last years?
Max and Perez looking ordinary now. Not able to wring the neck of the car and put it where it doesnt belong.
The other teams could see this last half as an opportunity to get a few wins. But i suspect the car should be sorted out in a race or 2

I dont think what we are seeing today is due to flexible bodywork. Seems like they just couldnt turn the tire on.

From the very fast outlaps, to the poor sector 1 (max had a moment, Perez even spun) to knowing that redbull conserve tires (but heats up poorly) to the Haas’ (very good on tire warm up) being fast, to Max being as fast as the rest on the 3 lap run, everything points to tire temp issues.

A very poor weekend so far, plus grid penalty for Max incoming. Tomorrow if tire wear is good they can still do something.

[napoleon1981]

The drivers would need to recalibrate what they expect under braking and turning so i think they did what they could. The car went from dominant and telepathic to unpredictable. It's shocking as Max said. The drivers would have zero confidence. Puts perspective on those other guys driving the dogs.

Do you think the other teams have made a mistake trying to copy the RB?

That's a huge problem. Copying a car that needs flexing to work.
Mclaren seem to hav found a nice middle ground. Ferrari will need to scrap the 2024 redbull copy.

Next year everyone will have a 0 pod design.

[Sieper]

Max just in the interview. They made some set-up changes after fp3 that weren’t the right choice. Has not much hope for tomorrow as overtaking is very hard here.