Not relevant. temps too different to the race.
Geometry changes needs to be reported , changes of material the parts are made of or changes in type of production , that are needed to meet the new TD's ( less flexing) doesn't need to be reportedvorticism wrote: ↑16 Sep 2023, 18:28+1 thanks. We'll need shots of the car on a lift to help confirm things on our end. Now, they did report floor edge changes. Which could be downstream of floor changes they didn't have to report. Although I am still doubtful--teams were allowed to show up at this race (and this one only?) with potentially new floor geometry because of this TD? I wonder how the lines in the sands were drawn in all this regarding FIA protocol. "Central floor changes don't need to be reported but floor edge changes do, as usual." ?dialtone wrote: ↑16 Sep 2023, 18:17viewtopic.php?p=1158938#p1158938
Teams were not required to declare on the FIA document the changes made to their car bodies (wings and bottom mainly) to meet the new requirements of the updated TD018 and TD039.
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Remember some of us had this theory especially at Zandvort. Yuki has been defending like a mother lion against red bull's rivals and has also parked his car questionably to benefit red bull a few times.hollus wrote: ↑16 Sep 2023, 20:07https://www.racefans.net/2023/09/16/ver ... a-hearing/
O...M...G...
Unbelievable really.
I mean, if Toro Rosso chooses not to attend the hearing, then FIA must act as Tsunoda's representative.
This is appalling beyond believe and a really, really bad look from RB. You've won both championships, you could totally afford to look chivalry here.
It is not a fair sport if one team runs with 4 drivers.
/weeps about Alonso and Abu-Dhabi 2010, stops the off topic right there/.
It turned out just like I said. I have an F1TV subscription. I watch the onboards and review the telemetry before I comment. I don't just grab the "news". When I reviewed Verstappen's laps from FP3, it was good, but missing a touch in T13 and T14, but still good enough to match Sainz everywhere on the track except those two corners.ValeVida46 wrote: ↑16 Sep 2023, 14:49That's a bit of a stretch isn't it?
How is getting the back end of the car off to completely change set up = "the car is fine after FP3" to then "remember that for all teams".
If all was well as you suggest we wouldn't be seeing this.
Maybe they got the data to improve into qualifying which is why they are doing a set up change. We'll see.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/verst ... for%20sure."I think FP3 was not too bad, but then we tried a few more things on the car for qualifying where it tipped it over to the car being undriveable again, where car was massively bottoming out in the braking zones and every time I wanted to brake deep and hard, my front wheels were getting unloaded.
"So, like I said on the radio, it was just a shocking experience because also just trying to lean on the car in low speed, just constantly no speed, no traction. Just really difficult to drive."
.hollus wrote: ↑16 Sep 2023, 20:07https://www.racefans.net/2023/09/16/ver ... a-hearing/
O...M...G...
Unbelievable really.
I mean, if Toro Rosso chooses not to attend the hearing, then FIA must act as Tsunoda's representative.
This is appalling beyond believe and a really, really bad look from RB. You've won both championships, you could totally afford to look chivalry here.
It is not a fair sport if one team runs with 4 drivers.
/weeps about Alonso and Abu-Dhabi 2010, stops the off topic right there/.
The stewards noted AlphaTauri unusually chose not to send any team representation to their hearing on the incident between their driver and Verstappen.
Red Bull admitted they had failed to warn Verstappen about Tsunoda until he was almost alongside. The stewards handed Red Bull a €5,000 (£4,308) fine and gave Verstappen a second reprimand, a decision they said was consistent with previous decisions made for similar incidents this season.
Tsunoda might have been intimidating Max as well (as Sainz would say ).
Daddy Stroll will pay for it, no worries... Wonder how long the shareholders will tolerate Stroll Jr. and his utter incompetence...
this was it, as far as I could see: