basti313 wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023, 09:04
ringo wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023, 02:48
Hamilton was past Norris. And had full control of his car on the track, even following the flank of russel's car with steering inputs.
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Everyone including Hamilton Tot and the team was happy about how the first corner was handled.
He was alongside Norris, when he would have needed to brake. The only reason he came alongside Russel was that he missed the braking point and gained nearly three car length on Russel.
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Well you can show me where there is a "braking point" on the tarmac.
There is none. A driver can brake where ever he wants so long as his car is under control and stays within the two white lines.
The car did not lock up and again i repeat, was under full control. No understeer, no oversteer, no full lock.
Kimi Raikonen famously evaded cars on the first lap at spa many times using an outside line and he won that race like 7 times.
There seems to be some confusion with real life and video games. Where does this braking point concept come from? It's nowhere in sporting regulation or marked anywhere on the track. The drivers dont brake at a discrete point before a corner for the move to be legal or fair. You brake as late as you want at any point so long as your car is in control.
Hamilton passed Norris cleanly who was tucked uo behind russel. It's very obvious from the videos and slo motion replay.
I think you are creating concepts to try and make a very obvious passing murky.
I have never seen anything like this in F1 where someone gets passed completely and yet wants back a position.
If Russel did not block lewis, lewis would be through past Norris just like any car being passed because its tucked up behind another car. Basic lap start.
I wont comment on the ham fans nonsense because it's really nothing to do with fandom. It's just plain to see.
The speeds on that app is nonse and obviously lags. Hamilton cannot be 50kph faster than russel. Thats ridiculous.
There was a lovely post with hamilton onboard. He has full grip on the front axle and even adjusts his distance from russel to avoid clashing with the floor and rear wheel right after he passed norris. This is not a 50kph differential. Also proof the guy is in full control of his car and isnt even thinking about Norris. He is focusing on staying close to russel but not clash wheels.
The shot with the overhead view is also good. Hamilton well within the center of the track and comfortably capable of staying within the apex of the upcoming corner.
It's good to use common sense and your own eye balls to see that there was no 50kph difference between Lewis and Russel.
That 50kph would have been when he was driving towards the bollard off track.