2023 Qatar Grand Prix - Lusail, Oct 06 - 08

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Without the SC, I think Max wins that. Russell & the Ferrari’s would have dropped like a stone without the SC’s.

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Russell always wanting some stupid strategy. Starting on softs was bad enough, then wanting to box with 4 to go under SC. He has pace but often ruins it with some gimmicky strategy.

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Cs98 wrote:
07 Oct 2023, 20:12
Russell always wanting some stupid strategy. Starting on softs was bad enough, then wanting to box with 4 to go under SC. He has pace but often ruins it with some gimmicky strategy.
It might still be a Williams syndrome.
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Cs98 wrote:
07 Oct 2023, 19:58
3 SCs in a sprint, utter joke.
1st SC wasn't so bad. took 1 lap. It's the other 2 that really stuffed us.
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chrisc90 wrote:
07 Oct 2023, 19:00
https://ibb.co/31bJT52
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I believe thats about right for your tyre age and allocation.

Just need to work it out what is actually there IF the 3 tyre change and 20/22 lap limits are.

PRESUMING everyone runs mediums for the sprint your left with this:
https://ibb.co/f8tkDDt

Now PRESUMING that the FIA say its 3 mandatory tyre change stops. 59 / 4 (stints) leaves you with 14.75 laps for each tyre. Lets make it 15 for numbers sake.

So any tyre with over 7 laps would not be eligible to race, which leaves your allocation as follows:
https://ibb.co/qdsjs80

Maximum available laps left per tyre.
https://ibb.co/F791Gbt
I think your Ferrari calculation is off. They have 2 set of used mediums with 7 and 8 laps on, but you show -7 for them don't think that's right.

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proteus wrote:
07 Oct 2023, 20:14
Cs98 wrote:
07 Oct 2023, 20:12
Russell always wanting some stupid strategy. Starting on softs was bad enough, then wanting to box with 4 to go under SC. He has pace but often ruins it with some gimmicky strategy.
It might still be a Williams syndrome.
He's overdoing it. He thinks he's Neo in the Matrix or something. Dude needs to calm himself down and focus on the fundamentals. He already has the speed, he just needs to trust his abilities instead of jumping on every alternative strat that presents itself. Like the soft tyre wasn't even close to making that stint.

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Russell needing to radio every overtake he does is just cringe. Guy is so desperate to win and be liked

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dialtone wrote:
07 Oct 2023, 20:15
chrisc90 wrote:
07 Oct 2023, 19:00
https://ibb.co/31bJT52
form emoticons

I believe thats about right for your tyre age and allocation.

Just need to work it out what is actually there IF the 3 tyre change and 20/22 lap limits are.

PRESUMING everyone runs mediums for the sprint your left with this:
https://ibb.co/f8tkDDt

Now PRESUMING that the FIA say its 3 mandatory tyre change stops. 59 / 4 (stints) leaves you with 14.75 laps for each tyre. Lets make it 15 for numbers sake.

So any tyre with over 7 laps would not be eligible to race, which leaves your allocation as follows:
https://ibb.co/qdsjs80

Maximum available laps left per tyre.
https://ibb.co/F791Gbt
I think your Ferrari calculation is off. They have 2 set of used mediums with 7 and 8 laps on, but you show -7 for them don't think that's right.
I took the tyre data/life off the F1TV video. Shows -7 because google sheets is playing up

It was predicted for the sprint race as I said (worked out before the sprint race happened)

Ill update tonight. Shouldnt be too far out the way.
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F1NAC wrote:
07 Oct 2023, 20:10
dialtone wrote:
07 Oct 2023, 16:21
F1NAC wrote:
07 Oct 2023, 16:17
Norris crumbled again. 2nd qualies in the row on the same weekend. You won’t win any races with drives like this fella
crumbled? he starts 2nd
His team mate calmly took his first win(yes it is sprint) but still Norris is at 0.
What luck! Years of trying hard by Norris and Piastri steps in on a few goes and gets a win!
Norris must be fuming but its his own fault. He started P2 and didnt have a good start.
It's not a grand prix win but its still a race win in Formula1.
Hamilton helping himself to some points on perez and alonso.
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lando hasn't won a race with mclaren he risk being overshadowed by rookie.ones his tire saving advantage vanish he will have serious internal competition.

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chrisc90 wrote:
07 Oct 2023, 20:20
Ill update tonight. Shouldnt be too far out the way.
not that it makes much of a difference, but in case you missed it: the set with the most laps in the sprint goes back to Pirelli. So you can actually delete those (19) sets

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Congratulations to MAx Verstappen. Delivering yet again with a 3rd WDC. Norris will have to respond to Piastri because its moments like this that turn tables in the team.

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Wonder how Lewis overtook Sainz on the last lap ? The TV didn't show it

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Spoutnik wrote:
07 Oct 2023, 20:23
Wonder how Lewis overtook Sainz on the last lap ? The TV didn't show it
Hamilton gave him the shakes into T7, then Sainz was very compromised with late braking into T7 so Sainz went to the outside of the racing line, and Hamilton went inside and overtook, T7
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DGP123 wrote:
07 Oct 2023, 20:12
Without the SC, I think Max wins that. Russell & the Ferrari’s would have dropped like a stone without the SC’s.
Maybe but it didn't seem like Max had any pace advantage to Piastri and had 3 laps younger tyres.. Sunday could yet be McLaren winning from low down the order if they get fortunate