I think unless a miracle happens that's it. I also found it strange that the car was decent in FP1 but no more after that. Maybe the setup changes didn't work, not sure.ALO_Power wrote: ↑28 Oct 2023, 21:49I haven't watched FP3 but the results look terrible. Plus, Alonso being consistently behind Stroll also looks bit weird.
In FP1 it seemed that without his SC3 mistake, Alonso would be on a similar lap time as Norris. Where did that pace go?
Also car looks tricky to drive, judging from the mistakes drivers make.
Is there any hope in sector times or long run pace?
The concept it very much inline with what Red Bull are doing. Even closer to what Mclaren are doing which is also what Red Bull are doing.xReVo wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 02:15I have never been as pessimistic as I am now. After today that's enough. 1.7 seconds from the first (with the Alonso reference) is obscene. What have they been up to? This is not acceptable, a car that has achieved 7 podiums. We're not joking. It's time to declare that they did everything wrong and start from scratch. Try to copy Redbull, do anything. The 2024 car continuing like this will compete with Q1. I don't even want to think about something like that
I think we're long past the impact of the technical directive though. Each upgrade now should be improving the car in the new direction. Their design doesn't look too far off RB/Mclaren.scuderiabrandon wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 02:45The concept it very much inline with what Red Bull are doing. Even closer to what Mclaren are doing which is also what Red Bull are doing.xReVo wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 02:15I have never been as pessimistic as I am now. After today that's enough. 1.7 seconds from the first (with the Alonso reference) is obscene. What have they been up to? This is not acceptable, a car that has achieved 7 podiums. We're not joking. It's time to declare that they did everything wrong and start from scratch. Try to copy Redbull, do anything. The 2024 car continuing like this will compete with Q1. I don't even want to think about something like that
It is clear to me, they've relied too much on something that has now been put off by a technical directive. No team will publicly admit this is the case.
They used the double pillar rear wing to carry the aero rake to gather aero data in FP1.
Agreed, hopefully the aero data they've gathered helps them with correlation.AR3-GP wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 02:54I think we're long past the impact of the technical directive though. Each upgrade now should be improving the car in the new direction. Their design doesn't look too far off RB/Mclaren.scuderiabrandon wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 02:45The concept it very much inline with what Red Bull are doing. Even closer to what Mclaren are doing which is also what Red Bull are doing.xReVo wrote: ↑29 Oct 2023, 02:15I have never been as pessimistic as I am now. After today that's enough. 1.7 seconds from the first (with the Alonso reference) is obscene. What have they been up to? This is not acceptable, a car that has achieved 7 podiums. We're not joking. It's time to declare that they did everything wrong and start from scratch. Try to copy Redbull, do anything. The 2024 car continuing like this will compete with Q1. I don't even want to think about something like that
It is clear to me, they've relied too much on something that has now been put off by a technical directive. No team will publicly admit this is the case.
I'm not sure though. Mexico has always been an outlier. COTA was much more competitive and representative.