2023 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 03 - 05

[cplchanb]

The fastest and the best driver does it again, making all the difference not having the fastest car. Best qualifier on the grid by far.

sorry but youre in dreamland on this... they were right up there all session long.

[cplchanb]

Whatever the weather, Max always there to deliver.

Was he 1st on track in Q3 ?

Not sure what difference that makes. You dont start the race on your Q3 position.

if you set your lap first just before the rain starts?

[avantman]

The fastest and the best driver does it again, making all the difference not having the fastest car. Best qualifier on the grid by far.

sorry but youre in dreamland on this... they were right up there all session long.

yeah, like 0,15s behind Mclaren all session long agree. Lando confirmed in the interview had the pace easily enough for pole.

[chrisc90]

Hope everyone is ok. Not what you want to see

[AR3-GP]

Whatever the weather, Max always there to deliver.

Was he 1st on track in Q3 ?

No. Hamilton and Aston were ahead. Lec and Russel just behind.

[Sieper]

This is painful for the naysayers but I believe that Max is up there with the very best when it comes to qualifying. Especially when conditions are tough. It is not just the car.

[dialtone]

This is painful for the naysayers but I believe that Max is up there with the very best when it comes to qualifying. Especially when conditions are tough. It is not just the car.

I think Max is absolutely great with mixed conditions but I don't think you can use this quali to go there. For starters because the narrative is that LEC isn't great in mixed conditions and yet he's up there. And most certainly Stroll isn't good in mixed conditions and he's 3rd.

Also a great car makes a huge difference when conditions are tough, the ceiling of performance is much higher, even a great driver in a bad car is going to look bad in mixed conditions.

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Verstappen is obviously the best out there currently, and mastered those difficult conditions perfectly. But we've suffered through enough easy victories this season, so it's obviously a bit frustrating to see him also have the luck on his side when he doesn't look like the best, for a change.

[Cs98]

This is painful for the naysayers but I believe that Max is up there with the very best when it comes to qualifying. Especially when conditions are tough. It is not just the car.

I think Max is absolutely great with mixed conditions but I don't think you can use this quali to go there. For starters because the narrative is that LEC isn't great in mixed conditions and yet he's up there. And most certainly Stroll isn't good in mixed conditions and he's 3rd.

Also a great car makes a huge difference when conditions are tough, the ceiling of performance is much higher, even a great driver in a bad car is going to look bad in mixed conditions.

Stroll is actually better in low grip conditions than dry, at least over one lap. Remember his pole. Also, it's not like Leclerc can't pull out a great lap in difficult conditions, but he's not super consistent doing it and that's why he has that reputation. Max is very fast and very consistent in all conditions, this result is not THE definitive proof of that, just the most recent example in a long line of them.

[Cassius]

Verstappen is obviously the best out there currently, and mastered those difficult conditions perfectly. But we've suffered through enough easy victories this season, so it's obviously a bit frustrating to see him also have the luck on his side when he doesn't look like the best, for a change.

To say it is just luck is undervaluing Max' performance.

He is always up there, barely makes mistakes. he probably made the choice to go out early, when Perez waited too long, he got the tyres up to temp, didn't make mistakes, etc.

Norris looked faster but - again - wasn't there. He might have been unlucky in t12, but it is not the first time this happens in his career.

[Cs98]

Verstappen is obviously the best out there currently, and mastered those difficult conditions perfectly. But we've suffered through enough easy victories this season, so it's obviously a bit frustrating to see him also have the luck on his side when he doesn't look like the best, for a change.

Putting it down to luck is missing the details of what happened. If you are McLaren for example, you need to learn something from today. Calling it luck will not help you in the future how to position your cars in changeable conditions. Not to mention Max put over 7 tenths on Lewis who was ahead of him on track, that's not luck, and the gap was nowhere close to that earlier in the session.

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Verstappen is obviously the best out there currently, and mastered those difficult conditions perfectly. But we've suffered through enough easy victories this season, so it's obviously a bit frustrating to see him also have the luck on his side when he doesn't look like the best, for a change.

Putting it down to luck is missing the details of what happened. If you are McLaren for example, you need to learn something from today. Calling it luck will not help you in the future how to position your cars in changeable conditions. Not to mention Max put over 7 tenths on Lewis who was ahead of him on track, that's not luck, and the gap was nowhere close to that earlier in the session.

McLaren messed that up themselves of course, but would Verstappen be on pole if Qualifying had started on time, and not hit the 1 out of 100 chance to be delayed? So I do think luck was a factor as well today.

[Cs98]

Verstappen is obviously the best out there currently, and mastered those difficult conditions perfectly. But we've suffered through enough easy victories this season, so it's obviously a bit frustrating to see him also have the luck on his side when he doesn't look like the best, for a change.

Putting it down to luck is missing the details of what happened. If you are McLaren for example, you need to learn something from today. Calling it luck will not help you in the future how to position your cars in changeable conditions. Not to mention Max put over 7 tenths on Lewis who was ahead of him on track, that's not luck, and the gap was nowhere close to that earlier in the session.

McLaren messed that up themselves of course, but would Verstappen be on pole if Qualifying had started on time, and not hit the 1 out of 100 chance to be delayed? So I do think luck was a factor as well today.

He was in the hunt for a pole in normal conditions. But the point is that very often it isn't normal conditions. And if one driver and team is better in changeable conditions, it's not luck.

[TFSA]

Verstappen is obviously the best out there currently, and mastered those difficult conditions perfectly. But we've suffered through enough easy victories this season, so it's obviously a bit frustrating to see him also have the luck on his side when he doesn't look like the best, for a change.

Putting it down to luck is missing the details of what happened. If you are McLaren for example, you need to learn something from today. Calling it luck will not help you in the future how to position your cars in changeable conditions. Not to mention Max put over 7 tenths on Lewis who was ahead of him on track, that's not luck, and the gap was nowhere close to that earlier in the session.

McLaren messed that up themselves of course, but would Verstappen be on pole if Qualifying had started on time, and not hit the 1 out of 100 chance to be delayed? So I do think luck was a factor as well today.

Considering he put 3 tenths down to P2, chances are he would. The gap in Q1 and Q2 for the entire field was extremely tight, but then he slams it in Q3. And it's not just down to a 5-15 sec headstart to the cars behind.

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Putting it down to luck is missing the details of what happened. If you are McLaren for example, you need to learn something from today. Calling it luck will not help you in the future how to position your cars in changeable conditions. Not to mention Max put over 7 tenths on Lewis who was ahead of him on track, that's not luck, and the gap was nowhere close to that earlier in the session.

McLaren messed that up themselves of course, but would Verstappen be on pole if Qualifying had started on time, and not hit the 1 out of 100 chance to be delayed? So I do think luck was a factor as well today.

Considering he put 3 tenths down to P2, chances are he would. The gap in Q1 and Q2 for the entire field was extremely tight, but then he slams it in Q3. And it's not just down to a 5-15 sec headstart to the cars behind.

Verstappen was half a second slower than in Q2 himself, so the track conditions really weren't compareable anymore, I'd say.