Ferrari SF-24 speculation

[gordonthegun]

"Ferrari: the new car, the first updates and discussions with Sainz.

The initial configuration of the car is now largely defined and will be valid for the first 3 races. First big package in Japan. Important meeting in February.":

[Vanja #66]

Yeah, but someone must have told him something. Moreover, we also had bullish reports on the car supposed improved performance over the F1 75. Clearly they didn't expect some issues like the comeback of porpoising. The initial spec of the SF 23 was a complete disaster. I made an analysis of the first stint race pace compared to the F1 75 in Bahrain and the SF 23 was almost slower

Everything about the presentation and the expectations of SF-23 was decided well before Vasseur moved in, lead times on this are weeks, not days. He may have had an input in choosing the name and that's it Since Binotto left and Vasseur took over, there was a bit of managerial chaos and most of the info points to Vigna taking the wheel for a while.

He's not an automotive engineer, let alone motorsport, so his understanding of the information given to him was surely limited (compared to seasoned motorsport managers), so it's likely he took things too positively. Nevertheless, he also demanded to have his input in the SF-23 development in late 2022, which was not welcomed by engineers. His specific request was to reduce drag substantially at all costs, believing engineers can keep the same downforce levels as F1-75. They likely did, but in very narrow performance windows, as we now all know...

Anyway, enough off topic, lets stick to the 2024 car speculation.

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SF-24 confirmed as the car name

[F1NAC]

"Ferrari: the new car, the first updates and discussions with Sainz.

The initial configuration of the car is now largely defined and will be valid for the first 3 races. First big package in Japan. Important meeting in February.":

only now realized that Japan is moved in calendar.

[Xyz22]

Online presentation on the 13/02
Shakedown (15km) immediately after -> Fiorano
Filming day (200km) on the 14/02 -> Fiorano

https://formu1a.uno/ferrari-sf-24-primo ... a-fiorano/

[FDD]

"2024 Ferrari F1 car: Marc Genè gives verdict"

https://scuderiafans.com/2024-ferrari-f ... -simulato/

“Optimism? All we can say is what the simulator tells us and the drivers’ feelings in the simulator,” stated the former driver, now an ambassador for the Maranello team, in an interview with Mundo Deportivo.

“The track, in any case, is what matters and is the final judge. But it is true that last year at this point, we were not entirely convinced by the car based on what the simulator was telling us. This year the feelings are very different.”

However, Marc Genè prefers not to make grand pronouncements and waits for the first shakedown to draw initial conclusions: “We still have to wait to see the car on the track, which will happen on February 13, and then the pre-season tests in Bahrain.”

Not much, just a confirmation of what was already said a while ago.

Not much, yes, but: "This year the feelings are very different.", is telling quite a bit.
The situation is different and not by little, however track is the confirmation...

[Venturiation]

"2024 Ferrari F1 car: Marc Genè gives verdict"

https://scuderiafans.com/2024-ferrari-f ... -simulato/

“Optimism? All we can say is what the simulator tells us and the drivers’ feelings in the simulator,” stated the former driver, now an ambassador for the Maranello team, in an interview with Mundo Deportivo.

“The track, in any case, is what matters and is the final judge. But it is true that last year at this point, we were not entirely convinced by the car based on what the simulator was telling us. This year the feelings are very different.”

However, Marc Genè prefers not to make grand pronouncements and waits for the first shakedown to draw initial conclusions: “We still have to wait to see the car on the track, which will happen on February 13, and then the pre-season tests in Bahrain.”

Not much, just a confirmation of what was already said a while ago.

Not much, yes, but: "This year the feelings are very different.", is telling quite a bit.
The situation is different and not by little, however track is the confirmation...

And it means it's a bigger jump than last year, in 2023 the SF23 was 1 second faster than SF 75 in the simulator

https://formu1a.uno/ferrari-675-over-on ... simulator/
For our information, the numbers from the Ferrari simulator are extremely positive, with highly-qualified sources revealing that the 2023 car is over one second faster than last year’s machine. This is an intriguing estimation from the Maranello camp, considering the 2023 regulations introduce significant variations in terms of overall aerodynamic load.

[CouncilorIrissa]

Online presentation on the 13/02
Shakedown (15km) immediately after -> Fiorano
Filming day (200km) on the 14/02 -> Fiorano

https://formu1a.uno/ferrari-sf-24-primo ... a-fiorano/

Have filming days been extended? They used to be only 100km long iirc

[organic]

Online presentation on the 13/02
Shakedown (15km) immediately after -> Fiorano
Filming day (200km) on the 14/02 -> Fiorano

https://formu1a.uno/ferrari-sf-24-primo ... a-fiorano/

Have filming days been extended? They used to be only 100km long iirc

yes they are 200km now

[LM10]

"2024 Ferrari F1 car: Marc Genè gives verdict"

https://scuderiafans.com/2024-ferrari-f ... -simulato/

“Optimism? All we can say is what the simulator tells us and the drivers’ feelings in the simulator,” stated the former driver, now an ambassador for the Maranello team, in an interview with Mundo Deportivo.

“The track, in any case, is what matters and is the final judge. But it is true that last year at this point, we were not entirely convinced by the car based on what the simulator was telling us. This year the feelings are very different.”

However, Marc Genè prefers not to make grand pronouncements and waits for the first shakedown to draw initial conclusions: “We still have to wait to see the car on the track, which will happen on February 13, and then the pre-season tests in Bahrain.”

Not much, just a confirmation of what was already said a while ago.

Let’s talk about hopium…

I don’t know what makes me being pumped up with hope and optimism every single preseason despite the disappointment we Ferrari fans go through year after year. But I can’t help it and be hopeful again - that’s why „hopium“ is perfect to describe the feeling. It’s like an addiction.

Anyway, only about 2 weeks left until we see the new car and I’m really excited. More so after reading the different interesting bits about what’s going to change on the car. Marc Genè saying that this year the feelings are very different only makes it better. After all they actually knew there was something wrong going on with the SF-23 in the simulator it seems.

I also like the fact that this time the team does not want to make a big show presenting the new car and talk about big gains before the car even hits the track.

Finger’s crossed they’ve done a good job this time.

[FDD]

"2024 Ferrari F1 car: Marc Genè gives verdict"

https://scuderiafans.com/2024-ferrari-f ... -simulato/




Not much, just a confirmation of what was already said a while ago.

Not much, yes, but: "This year the feelings are very different.", is telling quite a bit.
The situation is different and not by little, however track is the confirmation...

And it means it's a bigger jump than last year, in 2023 the SF23 was 1 second faster than SF 75 in the simulator

https://formu1a.uno/ferrari-675-over-on ... simulator/
For our information, the numbers from the Ferrari simulator are extremely positive, with highly-qualified sources revealing that the 2023 car is over one second faster than last year’s machine. This is an intriguing estimation from the Maranello camp, considering the 2023 regulations introduce significant variations in terms of overall aerodynamic load.

"...the numbers from the Ferrari simulator are extremely positive, with highly-qualified sources revealing that the 2023 car is over one second faster than last year’s machine."
"highly-qualified sources" me personally do not believe in that, later we read that both drivers were not happy with simulator results/feeling, btw maybe they gained 1 sec in simulator but then RB gained more.
However narrative is low profile this year and it looks like more realistic, according to me the positive reactions buy the drivers are more important obviously, however tests will be the first relevant indicator.

[Venturiation]

Not much, yes, but: "This year the feelings are very different.", is telling quite a bit.
The situation is different and not by little, however track is the confirmation...

And it means it's a bigger jump than last year, in 2023 the SF23 was 1 second faster than SF 75 in the simulator

https://formu1a.uno/ferrari-675-over-on ... simulator/
For our information, the numbers from the Ferrari simulator are extremely positive, with highly-qualified sources revealing that the 2023 car is over one second faster than last year’s machine. This is an intriguing estimation from the Maranello camp, considering the 2023 regulations introduce significant variations in terms of overall aerodynamic load.

"...the numbers from the Ferrari simulator are extremely positive, with highly-qualified sources revealing that the 2023 car is over one second faster than last year’s machine."
"highly-qualified sources" me personally do not believe in that, later we read that both drivers were not happy with simulator results/feeling, btw maybe they gained 1 sec in simulator but then RB gained more.
However narrative is low profile this year and it looks like more realistic, according to me the positive reactions buy the drivers are more important obviously, however tests will be the first relevant indicator.

Later in the year they confirmed the 1 second gain in the simulator but it wasn't showing on track

[Vanja #66]

Not much, yes, but: "This year the feelings are very different.", is telling quite a bit.
The situation is different and not by little, however track is the confirmation...

To be honest, we've heard all of this a few months ago, during the season. Since Japan the car was noticeably better balanced and gave more confidence to the drivers. If Vegas track is an outlier and worked to SF-23's strengths, Abu Dhabi was really something unexpected and Leclerc's race fastest lap in 23 was about 1.5s faster than 22. Engineers found something with the floor and the setup and it showed. They have the most to gain of the top 5 teams with the chassis change, so it's not like they don't know what they need to do. RB also knows what to do, so anything other than a few wins in 2024 will be quite hard.

[FDD]

Not much, yes, but: "This year the feelings are very different.", is telling quite a bit.
The situation is different and not by little, however track is the confirmation...

To be honest, we've heard all of this a few months ago, during the season. Since Japan the car was noticeably better balanced and gave more confidence to the drivers. If Vegas track is an outlier and worked to SF-23's strengths, Abu Dhabi was really something unexpected and Leclerc's race fastest lap in 23 was about 1.5s faster than 22. Engineers found something with the floor and the setup and it showed. They have the most to gain of the top 5 teams with the chassis change, so it's not like they don't know what they need to do. RB also knows what to do, so anything other than a few wins in 2024 will be quite hard.

Agree, especially in the part "...so anything other than a few wins in 2024 will be quite hard.", if we want to have realistic hopes.

[Fer.Fan]

Not much, yes, but: "This year the feelings are very different.", is telling quite a bit.
The situation is different and not by little, however track is the confirmation...

To be honest, we've heard all of this a few months ago, during the season. Since Japan the car was noticeably better balanced and gave more confidence to the drivers. If Vegas track is an outlier and worked to SF-23's strengths, Abu Dhabi was really something unexpected and Leclerc's race fastest lap in 23 was about 1.5s faster than 22. Engineers found something with the floor and the setup and it showed. They have the most to gain of the top 5 teams with the chassis change, so it's not like they don't know what they need to do. RB also knows what to do, so anything other than a few wins in 2024 will be quite hard.

All credit to Fredric V. for his decision,develop and learn about set up of SF-23 until last race, floor set up wise and chassi. They will benifit in 24 for that. Just remember how it was during Binottos ” next year mentality” and early focus on next years car.

[FDD]

Zander Arcari regarding the update schedule of SF-24:
"...temperatures in Sakhir do not offer absolute feedback on the performance of the cars."
"According to what we have learned, Cardile would prefer to delay the production of the updates for a few weeks if the data collected in Bahrain are not those hoped for. A provision that aims to forge new components only when the certainty of having taken the correct path becomes present."