"Ferrari: the new car, the first updates and discussions with Sainz.
The initial configuration of the car is now largely defined and will be valid for the first 3 races. First big package in Japan. Important meeting in February.":
Everything about the presentation and the expectations of SF-23 was decided well before Vasseur moved in, lead times on this are weeks, not days. He may have had an input in choosing the name and that's it Since Binotto left and Vasseur took over, there was a bit of managerial chaos and most of the info points to Vigna taking the wheel for a while.Xyz22 wrote: ↑29 Jan 2024, 12:28Yeah, but someone must have told him something. Moreover, we also had bullish reports on the car supposed improved performance over the F1 75. Clearly they didn't expect some issues like the comeback of porpoising. The initial spec of the SF 23 was a complete disaster. I made an analysis of the first stint race pace compared to the F1 75 in Bahrain and the SF 23 was almost slower
only now realized that Japan is moved in calendar.gordonthegun wrote: ↑29 Jan 2024, 13:38"Ferrari: the new car, the first updates and discussions with Sainz.
The initial configuration of the car is now largely defined and will be valid for the first 3 races. First big package in Japan. Important meeting in February.":
Not much, yes, but: "This year the feelings are very different.", is telling quite a bit.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑29 Jan 2024, 08:46"2024 Ferrari F1 car: Marc Genè gives verdict"
https://scuderiafans.com/2024-ferrari-f ... -simulato/
Not much, just a confirmation of what was already said a while ago.“Optimism? All we can say is what the simulator tells us and the drivers’ feelings in the simulator,” stated the former driver, now an ambassador for the Maranello team, in an interview with Mundo Deportivo.
“The track, in any case, is what matters and is the final judge. But it is true that last year at this point, we were not entirely convinced by the car based on what the simulator was telling us. This year the feelings are very different.”
However, Marc Genè prefers not to make grand pronouncements and waits for the first shakedown to draw initial conclusions: “We still have to wait to see the car on the track, which will happen on February 13, and then the pre-season tests in Bahrain.”
And it means it's a bigger jump than last year, in 2023 the SF23 was 1 second faster than SF 75 in the simulatorFDD wrote: ↑29 Jan 2024, 16:56Not much, yes, but: "This year the feelings are very different.", is telling quite a bit.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑29 Jan 2024, 08:46"2024 Ferrari F1 car: Marc Genè gives verdict"
https://scuderiafans.com/2024-ferrari-f ... -simulato/
Not much, just a confirmation of what was already said a while ago.“Optimism? All we can say is what the simulator tells us and the drivers’ feelings in the simulator,” stated the former driver, now an ambassador for the Maranello team, in an interview with Mundo Deportivo.
“The track, in any case, is what matters and is the final judge. But it is true that last year at this point, we were not entirely convinced by the car based on what the simulator was telling us. This year the feelings are very different.”
However, Marc Genè prefers not to make grand pronouncements and waits for the first shakedown to draw initial conclusions: “We still have to wait to see the car on the track, which will happen on February 13, and then the pre-season tests in Bahrain.”
The situation is different and not by little, however track is the confirmation...
Have filming days been extended? They used to be only 100km long iircXyz22 wrote:Online presentation on the 13/02
Shakedown (15km) immediately after -> Fiorano
Filming day (200km) on the 14/02 -> Fiorano
https://formu1a.uno/ferrari-sf-24-primo ... a-fiorano/
yes they are 200km nowCouncilorIrissa wrote: ↑29 Jan 2024, 18:04Have filming days been extended? They used to be only 100km long iircXyz22 wrote:Online presentation on the 13/02
Shakedown (15km) immediately after -> Fiorano
Filming day (200km) on the 14/02 -> Fiorano
https://formu1a.uno/ferrari-sf-24-primo ... a-fiorano/
Let’s talk about hopium…Vanja #66 wrote: ↑29 Jan 2024, 08:46"2024 Ferrari F1 car: Marc Genè gives verdict"
https://scuderiafans.com/2024-ferrari-f ... -simulato/
Not much, just a confirmation of what was already said a while ago.“Optimism? All we can say is what the simulator tells us and the drivers’ feelings in the simulator,” stated the former driver, now an ambassador for the Maranello team, in an interview with Mundo Deportivo.
“The track, in any case, is what matters and is the final judge. But it is true that last year at this point, we were not entirely convinced by the car based on what the simulator was telling us. This year the feelings are very different.”
However, Marc Genè prefers not to make grand pronouncements and waits for the first shakedown to draw initial conclusions: “We still have to wait to see the car on the track, which will happen on February 13, and then the pre-season tests in Bahrain.”
"...the numbers from the Ferrari simulator are extremely positive, with highly-qualified sources revealing that the 2023 car is over one second faster than last year’s machine."Venturiation wrote: ↑29 Jan 2024, 17:00And it means it's a bigger jump than last year, in 2023 the SF23 was 1 second faster than SF 75 in the simulatorFDD wrote: ↑29 Jan 2024, 16:56Not much, yes, but: "This year the feelings are very different.", is telling quite a bit.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑29 Jan 2024, 08:46"2024 Ferrari F1 car: Marc Genè gives verdict"
https://scuderiafans.com/2024-ferrari-f ... -simulato/
Not much, just a confirmation of what was already said a while ago.
The situation is different and not by little, however track is the confirmation...
https://formu1a.uno/ferrari-675-over-on ... simulator/
For our information, the numbers from the Ferrari simulator are extremely positive, with highly-qualified sources revealing that the 2023 car is over one second faster than last year’s machine. This is an intriguing estimation from the Maranello camp, considering the 2023 regulations introduce significant variations in terms of overall aerodynamic load.
Later in the year they confirmed the 1 second gain in the simulator but it wasn't showing on trackFDD wrote: ↑30 Jan 2024, 02:05"...the numbers from the Ferrari simulator are extremely positive, with highly-qualified sources revealing that the 2023 car is over one second faster than last year’s machine."Venturiation wrote: ↑29 Jan 2024, 17:00And it means it's a bigger jump than last year, in 2023 the SF23 was 1 second faster than SF 75 in the simulator
https://formu1a.uno/ferrari-675-over-on ... simulator/
For our information, the numbers from the Ferrari simulator are extremely positive, with highly-qualified sources revealing that the 2023 car is over one second faster than last year’s machine. This is an intriguing estimation from the Maranello camp, considering the 2023 regulations introduce significant variations in terms of overall aerodynamic load.
"highly-qualified sources" me personally do not believe in that, later we read that both drivers were not happy with simulator results/feeling, btw maybe they gained 1 sec in simulator but then RB gained more.
However narrative is low profile this year and it looks like more realistic, according to me the positive reactions buy the drivers are more important obviously, however tests will be the first relevant indicator.
To be honest, we've heard all of this a few months ago, during the season. Since Japan the car was noticeably better balanced and gave more confidence to the drivers. If Vegas track is an outlier and worked to SF-23's strengths, Abu Dhabi was really something unexpected and Leclerc's race fastest lap in 23 was about 1.5s faster than 22. Engineers found something with the floor and the setup and it showed. They have the most to gain of the top 5 teams with the chassis change, so it's not like they don't know what they need to do. RB also knows what to do, so anything other than a few wins in 2024 will be quite hard.
Agree, especially in the part "...so anything other than a few wins in 2024 will be quite hard.", if we want to have realistic hopes.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑30 Jan 2024, 09:24To be honest, we've heard all of this a few months ago, during the season. Since Japan the car was noticeably better balanced and gave more confidence to the drivers. If Vegas track is an outlier and worked to SF-23's strengths, Abu Dhabi was really something unexpected and Leclerc's race fastest lap in 23 was about 1.5s faster than 22. Engineers found something with the floor and the setup and it showed. They have the most to gain of the top 5 teams with the chassis change, so it's not like they don't know what they need to do. RB also knows what to do, so anything other than a few wins in 2024 will be quite hard.
All credit to Fredric V. for his decision,develop and learn about set up of SF-23 until last race, floor set up wise and chassi. They will benifit in 24 for that. Just remember how it was during Binottos ” next year mentality” and early focus on next years car.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑30 Jan 2024, 09:24To be honest, we've heard all of this a few months ago, during the season. Since Japan the car was noticeably better balanced and gave more confidence to the drivers. If Vegas track is an outlier and worked to SF-23's strengths, Abu Dhabi was really something unexpected and Leclerc's race fastest lap in 23 was about 1.5s faster than 22. Engineers found something with the floor and the setup and it showed. They have the most to gain of the top 5 teams with the chassis change, so it's not like they don't know what they need to do. RB also knows what to do, so anything other than a few wins in 2024 will be quite hard.