That is exactly my point though. It is great newsCaribouBread wrote: ↑22 Feb 2024, 18:14Hell even if you think Sainz is markedly worse than Leclerc, isn't it great that the "worse" driver is posting good time?
Especially in a race stint.JPower wrote: ↑22 Feb 2024, 18:12No, because the disparity between Sainz and Leclerc is nowhere close to Verstappen/Perez. Let’s not start this now.Sphere3758 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2024, 17:57It makes no sense to judge the Ferrari with Sainz at the helm. That would be like judging the Redbull based on Perez today
He is more than a good enough yardstick at this point.
Yea, its a total insult for someone to say Sainz is a bad driver, let alone comparing the FER pair to a Verstappen/Perez pairing. Perez is just bad. Verstappen has had it very easy thru his entire career with lousy 2nd drivers. Sainz is a pretty good driver and if it were any other year he would have been signed quickly by FER. I doubt SAI will have any issue being signed by another team.
Comparing with Max's race stint from last year is misleading. He was simply managing the race after first stint as he had no challengers behind him. Just a stroll in the park that evening.ForzaFerrari3928 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2024, 18:42Max did a S-S-H stint last year in the race. His fastest lap was 1:36.236 on Lap 44 on the hard tire. His last stint on the hard tire was definitely about 1:36.5s range. Compared to that, Sainz's last stint today was 1:35.75s with a fastest lap of 1:34.99 so he was definitely about 0.5 second faster than Max's RB in last year's race on average. Not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison but Sainz's run today was stellar and more importantly quite a bit faster than the race winning stint from last year's GP.
Yeah, I don't doubt that Max could have gone a bit faster last year. But I don't think Sainz ran full beans today as well. Anyway, my point was that Ferrari have definitely made a great and very significant improvement in their race pace compared to last year.mendis wrote: ↑22 Feb 2024, 18:44Comparing with Max's race stint from last year is misleading. He was simply managing the race after first stint as he had no challengers behind him. Just a stroll in the park that evening.ForzaFerrari3928 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2024, 18:42Max did a S-S-H stint last year in the race. His fastest lap was 1:36.236 on Lap 44 on the hard tire. His last stint on the hard tire was definitely about 1:36.5s range. Compared to that, Sainz's last stint today was 1:35.75s with a fastest lap of 1:34.99 so he was definitely about 0.5 second faster than Max's RB in last year's race on average. Not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison but Sainz's run today was stellar and more importantly quite a bit faster than the race winning stint from last year's GP.
I agree, it is significantly up the road from where Charles was gonna finish if he didn't have problems however.mendis wrote: ↑22 Feb 2024, 18:44Comparing with Max's race stint from last year is misleading. He was simply managing the race after first stint as he had no challengers behind him. Just a stroll in the park that evening.ForzaFerrari3928 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2024, 18:42Max did a S-S-H stint last year in the race. His fastest lap was 1:36.236 on Lap 44 on the hard tire. His last stint on the hard tire was definitely about 1:36.5s range. Compared to that, Sainz's last stint today was 1:35.75s with a fastest lap of 1:34.99 so he was definitely about 0.5 second faster than Max's RB in last year's race on average. Not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison but Sainz's run today was stellar and more importantly quite a bit faster than the race winning stint from last year's GP.
Different conditions though.CouncilorIrissa wrote: ↑22 Feb 2024, 18:59Why speculate about it? RB are going to do a race sim tomorrow anyway.