2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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AR3-GP wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 20:44
Sainz was playing with energy during his race sim. In S1 he dropped from 31.1 range to 31.5-31.8 range in the middle of the stint, then did a 31.1 first sector near the end of the stint. First sector is just 2 straights so minimal deployment.
Yeah, I noticed that. His S2 and S3 were on par with Charles' during those runs while S1 kept increasing. If he really had deg, S2 likely would've fallen off a cliff IMO.

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So it seems braking is a bit critical, probably because the SF 23 was so good in this area and the new car feels completely different.

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From the new formu1a uno article:
The SF-24, on the other hand, confirmed its good driveability and consistency in long runs, with some limitations in the flying lap. In fact, the new platform still suffers a little in tight radius curves and still struggles a bit in slow curves. However, there is still a lot of potential to be extracted from the SF-24 , especially at the Power Unit level which has never been raised, at any time of the day. Also important is the difference in mapping (power) compared to the long runs covered during the tests , where the drive unit was used in a much more aggressive manner and closer to what we will see next Saturday. There was no need today, after the data collected and considering that the current power unit will have to last many more kilometers than the one used last week. Similar to testing, Carlos Sainz and Charles Leclerc are using a slightly different set-up , with the Monegasque having a slightly lower level of downforce than the Spaniard. In the long runs, Red Bull recorded the best simulations, while Ferrari confirmed its consistency and positive tire management in the long runs.

Link: https://formu1a.uno/analisi-fp2-top-tea ... ancora-no/

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Leclerc first lap in the first stint in testing vs second flying lap in his mini run today
Ferrari was indeed using conservative engine modes for race sim compared to the third day in testing.
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Xyz22 wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 22:22
https://i.ibb.co/5R2xqsz/Screenshot-202 ... -Tempo.png


Leclerc first lap in the first stint in testing vs second flying lap in his mini run today
What about on softs ?

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jambuka wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 22:27
Xyz22 wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 22:22
https://i.ibb.co/5R2xqsz/Screenshot-202 ... -Tempo.png


Leclerc first lap in the first stint in testing vs second flying lap in his mini run today
What about on softs ?
You mean in quali sim?

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Xyz22 wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 22:28
jambuka wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 22:27
Xyz22 wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 22:22
https://i.ibb.co/5R2xqsz/Screenshot-202 ... -Tempo.png


Leclerc first lap in the first stint in testing vs second flying lap in his mini run today
What about on softs ?
You mean in quali sim?
Yes. Particularly compared to HAM. Seems LEC top speed was low

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jambuka wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 22:31
Xyz22 wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 22:28
jambuka wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 22:27


What about on softs ?
You mean in quali sim?
Yes. Particularly compared to HAM. Seems LEC top speed was low
Top speed is also lower than his quali sim in testing day 3 with C4 tyres, but the difference is much smaller compared to the difference i highlighted for the long runs.

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Xyz22 wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 22:22
https://i.ibb.co/5R2xqsz/Screenshot-202 ... -Tempo.png


Leclerc first lap in the first stint in testing vs second flying lap in his mini run today
RB and Ferrari were running significantly lower power PU than Mercedes in Q sim, while R sim was "only" one step lower v Mercedes. Today confirmed Ferrari ran their PU in race sim in testing at most 1 step above RB, while entire F1 "pundit" community claimed "severely detuned RB PU" :lol: RB were smart to hide their pace in corners as well, aiming for low deg instead, but hey - why should pundits make an effort to connect the dots :lol: :lol: :lol:
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

#DwarvesAreNaturalSprinters
#BlessYouLaddie

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Vanja #66 wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 22:33
Xyz22 wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 22:22
https://i.ibb.co/5R2xqsz/Screenshot-202 ... -Tempo.png


Leclerc first lap in the first stint in testing vs second flying lap in his mini run today
RB and Ferrari were running significantly lower power PU than Mercedes in Q sim, while R sim was "only" one step lower v Mercedes. Today confirmed Ferrari ran their PU in race sim in testing at most 1 step above RB, while entire F1 "pundit" community claimed "severely detuned RB PU" :lol: RB were smart to hide their pace in corners as well, aiming for low deg instead, but hey - why should pundits make an effort to connect the dots :lol: :lol: :lol:
Vanja what do you think about the braking? It seems that both Charles and Carlos are still trying to figure out how to maximize performance in this area. The usual suspect online are saying that is because of the new anti dive front suspension, but you and other users here highlighted that is not the case IIRC (that the SF 24 has a more anti dive suspension or whatever that means).

My opinion is that the SF 23 was just excellent in that area and the new car probably feels very different, so it will require a bit of time to adapt.

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Xyz22 wrote:
29 Feb 2024, 22:38
Vanja what do you think about the braking? It seems that both Charles and Carlos are still trying to figure out how to maximize performance in this area. The usual suspect online are saying that is because of the new anti dive front suspension, but you and other users here highlighted that is not the case IIRC (that the SF 24 has a more anti dive suspension or whatever that means).

My opinion is that the SF 23 was just excellent in that area and the new car probably feels very different, so it will require a bit of time to adapt.
As you said + it's a new car with different priorities and compromises. I highlighted last year that RB likely knowingly traded off some braking performance in exchange for more stable front end while the car is loaded and cornering, but it didn't really catch up.

I honestly expected more problems with initial setup for Ferrari (and Mercedes) and McLaren grabbing the clear #2 spot early while those 2 teams sort themselves out, but it seems I wildly underestimated both Maranello and Brackely.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

#DwarvesAreNaturalSprinters
#BlessYouLaddie

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It is much colder today than at the test.

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Explains the braking problems then :)

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Woah, problem with braking material is a first. Hope the rest of the weekend is not compromised. I remember teams facing breaking material problems at beginning of 2022.