2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

[AR3-GP]

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[dialtone]

Have to agree with what’s said here 3 days testing, 3 practice sessions and cool cony tonight and they got that cooling package wrong doesn’t add up really

Why doesnt it add up? even Zak Brown said he saw Merc were struggling with their PU, the Williams was also overheating. Lewis and George are pretty realistic with their performances and issues, if it were just Toto saying it i'd be more skeptical, Russell was the one who said RB could win every race last season and he was on the money.

Wasn't Russell given the go ahead to race when LEC came to pass him? When he came out of the pits he also put in several purple laps. Even if this 0.4s/lap deficit exists, it wasn't throughout the race but likely on some laps specifically.

[Vanja #66]

Honestly, Mercedes overselling itself has become a tradition since 2022. Toto has to go, now

[Hammerfist]

How can you have cooling issues when it’s 19 degrees C? This is not the first time they’re making these rookie errors either. There is something rotten in that team and it needs to be taken out. Ferrari is the same. They all are making stupid errors and letting Redbull get away from them. It’s almost like it’s scripted that Max has to win every friggin race until he gets to Hamilton’s number. How many championships he has to win before everyone remembers how to win again? This is ridiculous. The cars are not only subpar but the execution of the race team leaves so much to be desired. You just don’t hear those blatant mistakes coming from Redbull ever.

[Matt2725]

The PUs get pretty hot. Even if it was 3C you could easily overheat your engine if you don't allow it to cool sufficiently.

[Luscion]

How can you have cooling issues when it’s 19 degrees C? This is not the first time they’re making these rookie errors either. There is something rotten in that team and it needs to be taken out. Ferrari is the same. They all are making stupid errors and letting Redbull get away from them. It’s almost like it’s scripted that Max has to win every friggin race until he gets to Hamilton’s number. How many championships he has to win before everyone remembers how to win again? This is ridiculous. The cars are not only subpar but the execution of the race team leaves so much to be desired. You just don’t hear those blatant mistakes coming from Redbull ever.

Max's engine overheated in Monza last year when the temperature was around 24c. its also more than just not opening enough louvers on the car

[Vinlarr89]

The PUs get pretty hot. Even if it was 3C you could easily overheat your engine if you don't allow it to cool sufficiently.

I think the point being made is that there aren’t going to be many races cooler than 19 degrees over the course of the season

[Cs98]

The PUs get pretty hot. Even if it was 3C you could easily overheat your engine if you don't allow it to cool sufficiently.

I think the point being made is that there aren’t going to be many races cooler than 19 degrees over the course of the season

But presumably they are not going to run their leanest cooling package for many races this year... I'd imagine this is for Vegas, Spa and Monza.

[214270]

They cut to ALB dash during the race & he had an overheating warning. Silly mistake by Merc but not outside the realms, regardless of ambient temps

[Emag]

James Allison was particularly smug after testing, suggesting they might be ahead of Ferrari in race pace and didn't even acknowledge McLaren as a possible threat.

Not a good look on them. Sure, might have had to manage some issues today, but it didnt seem like the problem was persistent throughout the race as someone else previously suggested.

Gotta wait for a couple more races to see how things pan out, but really, Mercedes seem like they are eating themselves up with the pressure of expectations they're putting on themselves.

[AR3-GP]

The fact that they were running so on the limit with cooling shows where they are performance wise, that they felt the need to take so much risk in order to have a chance to best Ferrari and Mclaren.

Remember that if they had more cooling they would have been slower in qualifying and slower than what they imagined in the race.

The same thing happened in Hungary last year.

[Sieper]

Do we think they ran the higher engine settings during FP2 to test if they could get away with this little bodywork opened? But why did it fail now then? And at Williams as well. Could it be something more than just cooling aero choices?

[Cassius]

Did Merc improve their pit stops?

[sport777]

I think Merc is fast enough, it will just take time to open up, they wasted 2 years, I think this car has good potential, we need to watch a couple of races, it is important to make updates, it seems that on Thursday they lowered the cars as much as possible to see what they can, but they didn’t take risks on Friday so low and raised the car higher, which I think affected the balance and downforce, in the second practice Hamilton showed 38.7 in the second sector, which is very fast, on Friday in qualifying they improved only to 38.4, I think this is a consequence of the raising the car is higher, so you won’t get disqualified by the bar

[Luscion]

Did Merc improve their pit stops?

seems like it, Ferrari did a 2.23 with Leclerc, Merc did a 2.51 with Hamilton