2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

[AMG.Tzan]

Result of Russell's crash, sure a bunch of people are taking pics of that floor

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJaYHNYXwAA ... ame=medium

Surely nobody wants piece of that crap floor…

Theres always things you can take from a car that is performing worse than yours, people took ideas from williams and RB took ideas from the W14, might be a little bit different with floors but for sure for the mid field and back markers this is valuable

Sure but…

If take into account that the Mercedes was the slowest of all through the fast first sector of Jeddah then this floor might be the worst on the grid really…

[CaribouBread]

Sure but…

If take into account that the Mercedes was the slowest of all through the fast first sector of Jeddah then this floor might be the worst on the grid really…

Its ostensibly the 5th fastest team, there are at least 5 teams that can glean something from their floor.

[JordanMugen]

He is a much much better person than I am. I'd step out of the team and get a head start on my next job.

Wouldn't Hamilton be loyal to the team that delivered him 6 world titles and which "doesn't make mistakes" by Hamilton's own admission?

It seems Mercedes were unwise to fire the good operator Mike Elliot who delivered the impressive race winning W13 and Elliot will be Alpine F1 Team's gain, assuming the Enstone squad can secure Elliot's services.

[j_ste]

I dont buy the experiment and guinea pig agenda for a minute. Lewis is human. He can be beaten. Rosberg, Button and Russell have done it. We just need to stop bashing him but also not release an entire docuseries on why his is slow here...no excuses for anyone. Russell must be judged by the same standard as well when lewis leaves.

So Lewis, Shovlin and Toto are all lying? Merc saying they planned on doing experiments a week before Australia and that they did extreme test with Lewis' car in fp2 is all just a big lie to, what, protect lewis?

Nobody is denying experiments. Lewis is leaving the team so why it's always and again Lewis that sacrifices to do experiments that costs speed of his? Lewis is doing these extreme experiments for himself, not for the team that has been said '22. Lewis should say fix you own --- car with Russell, he is not test driver here.

Why would he not experiment? He wants to win and the only way to do that is to find solutions and quickly.

He has always been this way. Its just that in the past, they were quick...now they arent and the issues are glaring.

[j_ste]

He is a much much better person than I am. I'd step out of the team and get a head start on my next job.

Wouldn't Hamilton be loyal to the team that delivered him 6 world titles and which "doesn't make mistakes" by Hamilton's own admission?

Hence why I said he is a much better person than I am...he is a professional and he will do his duty with that team. Obviously.

[proteus]

He is a much much better person than I am. I'd step out of the team and get a head start on my next job.

Wouldn't Hamilton be loyal to the team that delivered him 6 world titles and which "doesn't make mistakes" by Hamilton's own admission?

Hence why I said he is a much better person than I am...

There is a piece of paper named contract that doesnt allow the driver to just run away, atleast not without serious financial consequences.

[Jurgen von Diaz]

So Lewis, Shovlin and Toto are all lying? Merc saying they planned on doing experiments a week before Australia and that they did extreme test with Lewis' car in fp2 is all just a big lie to, what, protect lewis?

Nobody is denying experiments. Lewis is leaving the team so why it's always and again Lewis that sacrifices to do experiments that costs speed of his? Lewis is doing these extreme experiments for himself, not for the team that has been said '22. Lewis should say fix you own --- car with Russell, he is not test driver here.

Why would he not experiment? He wants to win and the only way to do that is to find solutions and quickly.

He has always been this way. Its just that in the past, they were quick...now they arent and the issues are glaring.

Of course it's free choice but don't give me that bullshit end of the season that Hamilton lost because of experiments. Half of the season '22 Lewis said he is tired of experiments and George should do it more, well who is forcing him to do it? Lewis should be like Sainz, challenging team mate and not to be a number two or test driver.

[Venturiation]

[JordanMugen]

What's so funny? Russell was pushing for a strong P7 result and lost the car, it happens. Every point will count in Mercedes' battle for between 3rd to 5th in the WCC.

[dialtone]

They built an SF-23. Alright in the first stint and quali, a bag of bricks everywhere else and slurps its tires.

[Venturiation]

What's so funny? Russell was pushing for a strong P7 result and lost the car, it happens. Every point will count in Mercedes' battle for between 3rd to 5th in the WCC.

Strong P7

So luch confidence that he loses the car 3 times in the last lap under pressure

[Jdn1327]

I think its fair to say that Mercedes are in a crisis at the moment. They all look bewildered when Lewis retired, they looked distraught when Russell crashed...I would like to say its his fault, but not a single car had a moment there this weekend...the Mercedes is terrible and that's it. Russell and Lewis have been flattering this team for 2yrs now...Mercedes needs to have a rethink.

[TeamKoolGreen]

^ They are just patiently waiting for something to go wrong on Russells end. And for them it erases anything Russell has accomplished. Just like all of 2022 + the race win was easily forgotten.

As I was saying ...

Russell is a British Max Verstappen. He's going to the limit all the time. Max crashed in mid cars , so does Russell. Peter Windsor says this about Russell too.

The car is worse than I thought this year. Turns out the zero pod concept wasn't the problem. They seem to have a slight geometry fault that they can't find.

[CouncilorIrissa]

They built an SF-23. Alright in the first stint and quali, a bag of bricks everywhere else and slurps its tires.

Worse.
The launch-spec SF23 had some strengths at least (straight line speed and quali pace), this thing has none.

[xaero]

^ They are just patiently waiting for something to go wrong on Russells end. And for them it erases anything Russell has accomplished. Just like all of 2022 + the race win was easily forgotten.

As I was saying ...

Russell is a British Max Verstappen. He's going to the limit all the time. Max crashed in mid cars , so does Russell.

Peter Windsor says this about Russell too.

Russel has accomplished nothing as of now compared to the teammate whom you enjoy bashing even on a single hint.. so swallow the false pride and watch him imploding race after race with his mistaken confidence in car..