WEC 2024

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AR3-GP wrote:
01 Jul 2024, 04:33
thanks to Lambo :|

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But was glad 296 performed well against army of German factory teams..

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Diveplanes have been added to the Ferrari, among other upgrades.


6 Hours of Sao Paolo is this Sunday.
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Simulator technology.
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The medium and hard tires are available this weekend. Porsche teams have been doing mixed tire runs. Hard tires on the rear. Medium tires on the front. The cars look very stiff. Sao Paolo is very bumpy. Ferrari looks to have the best ride, Porsche the worst. Toyota looks very quick.


In all the previous rounds, the FP2 classification predicted the pole sitting manufacturer. Toyota led FP2. I think they are the strongest here.

Toyota > Ferrari > Cadillac/Porsche would be my prediction.
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The swings in BoP are absolutely wild, after 2 years of it and half way through the season, that they still add or remove 1% power or weight from cars between races gives the impression they don’t know what they are doing.

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Yeah this BoP is so bad the winner is likely going to lap everyone up to the 2nd and team mate likely to finish 2nd despite a 2-3 minutes repair in the pits.

And people had the courage to complain about Ferrari’s BoP the last 2 years at LeMans.

They really have no clue about how to BoP these cars.

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dialtone wrote:
14 Jul 2024, 21:32
Yeah this BoP is so bad the winner is likely going to lap everyone up to the 2nd and team mate likely to finish 2nd despite a 2-3 minutes repair in the pits.

And people had the courage to complain about Ferrari’s BoP the last 2 years at LeMans.

They really have no clue about how to BoP these cars.
Indeed. Toyota have played the BoP so hard this season up until Le Mans. They have lost none of their advantage since last season. Can’t believe the BoP setters fell for it…

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Tvetovnato wrote:
14 Jul 2024, 22:29
dialtone wrote:
14 Jul 2024, 21:32
Yeah this BoP is so bad the winner is likely going to lap everyone up to the 2nd and team mate likely to finish 2nd despite a 2-3 minutes repair in the pits.

And people had the courage to complain about Ferrari’s BoP the last 2 years at LeMans.

They really have no clue about how to BoP these cars.
Indeed. Toyota have played the BoP so hard this season up until Le Mans. They have lost none of their advantage since last season. Can’t believe the BoP setters fell for it…
I don't even think they played the BoP that hard, they were the fastest at LeMans, in the rain easily 2s a lap faster than practically everyone and on similar pace with the Ferrari in the dry.

They just did an absolutely abysmal job at BoP in this race, ruined what could have been a fun race given how tight the rest of the field was.

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dialtone wrote:
14 Jul 2024, 22:37
Tvetovnato wrote:
14 Jul 2024, 22:29
dialtone wrote:
14 Jul 2024, 21:32
Yeah this BoP is so bad the winner is likely going to lap everyone up to the 2nd and team mate likely to finish 2nd despite a 2-3 minutes repair in the pits.

And people had the courage to complain about Ferrari’s BoP the last 2 years at LeMans.

They really have no clue about how to BoP these cars.
Indeed. Toyota have played the BoP so hard this season up until Le Mans. They have lost none of their advantage since last season. Can’t believe the BoP setters fell for it…
I don't even think they played the BoP that hard, they were the fastest at LeMans, in the rain easily 2s a lap faster than practically everyone and on similar pace with the Ferrari in the dry.

They just did an absolutely abysmal job at BoP in this race, ruined what could have been a fun race given how tight the rest of the field was.
Yeah I meant that they were all of a sudden quicker at Le Mans as well. It was so obvious what they did, being that slow at Spa all of a sudden right before the race everyone wants to win, even saying that Porsche would do a terrible job if they lost it. Hope they correct it for Cota and never make that mistake again.

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My own analysis of the year on year BOP at Spa concluded that Toyota was sandbagging before Le Mans.

The problem is that it’s very easy to sandbag. You raise the ride height. You increase the tire pressures. You go slower.


They didn’t do a great job with balancing the Toyota to the others in Brazil, but the rest of the racing was good. Ferrari and Porsche had a very nice battle and if Toyota could have been brought to that level, the race win would have gone down to the wire. 6 Porsche got lucky with the FCY which allowed them to avoid a splash at the end. 51 Ferrari would have finished on the podium without the drive through penalty earlier in the race for FCY procedure infringement.

Hopefully it’s better in COTA. Toyota needs +20Kg just like they had earlier in the year and then it would be perfect.
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AR3-GP wrote:
15 Jul 2024, 00:15
My own analysis of the year on year BOP at Spa concluded that Toyota was sandbagging before Le Mans.

The problem is that it’s very easy to sandbag. You raise the ride height. You increase the tire pressures. You go slower.


They didn’t do a great job with balancing the Toyota to the others in Brazil, but the rest of the racing was good. Ferrari and Porsche had a very nice battle and if Toyota could have been brought to that level, the race win would have gone down to the wire. 6 Porsche got lucky with the FCY which allowed them to avoid a splash at the end. 51 Ferrari would have finished on the podium without the drive through penalty earlier in the race for FCY procedure infringement.

Hopefully it’s better in COTA. Toyota needs +20Kg just like they had earlier in the year and then it would be perfect.
Exactly like this. And most importantly, don’t fall into the trap of changing it again when Toyota starts complaining. It’s clear what they are up to.

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This is the pace per team of the race. Easy 20kg more for Toyota, probably take out 5kg from Ferrari.

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Aston Martin Valkyrie LMH spotted testing!