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[CaribouBread]

They are not putting Lawson straight into RBR. His gap to Yuki was more than Dan for a start. A good analysis was done on another forum about it which I can include here . Dans average qualli gap was barely over a tenth vs Yuki before Silverstone. His peak results are higher too in 3x 4th and 1x5th.

Lawson while decent is largely unproven and imo overhyped. Dan is a known quantity, is a safe pair of hands unlike Perez and likes a similar car to Max. It makes sense he is the main driver in the frame.

Yuki's Honda connection and questionable ability to withstand extreme pressure mentally and lack of experience in a top team vs a guy like DR who also has good car feedback and development skills means he isn't a serious candidate at RBR imo.

I don't really have much qualms about Riccy but lets not pretend he's some bastion of mental fortitude. He was a shell of his former upbeat self during his Mclaren run.

[Jurgen von Diaz]

They are not putting Lawson straight into RBR. His gap to Yuki was more than Dan for a start. A good analysis was done on another forum about it which I can include here . Dans average qualli gap was barely over a tenth vs Yuki before Silverstone. His peak results are higher too in 3x 4th and 1x5th.

Lawson while decent is largely unproven and imo overhyped. Dan is a known quantity, is a safe pair of hands unlike Perez and likes a similar car to Max. It makes sense he is the main driver in the frame.

Yuki's Honda connection and questionable ability to withstand extreme pressure mentally and lack of experience in a top team vs a guy like DR who also has good car feedback and development skills means he isn't a serious candidate at RBR imo.

Daniel hasn’t liked a single car since 2021. When Max leaves, does Daniel have the potential to take his place? No. They should already be looking to the future to see how much potential Lawson is carrying.

[runningmanz]

They are not putting Lawson straight into RBR. His gap to Yuki was more than Dan for a start. A good analysis was done on another forum about it which I can include here . Dans average qualli gap was barely over a tenth vs Yuki before Silverstone. His peak results are higher too in 3x 4th and 1x5th.

Lawson while decent is largely unproven and imo overhyped. Dan is a known quantity, is a safe pair of hands unlike Perez and likes a similar car to Max. It makes sense he is the main driver in the frame.

Yuki's Honda connection and questionable ability to withstand extreme pressure mentally and lack of experience in a top team vs a guy like DR who also has good car feedback and development skills means he isn't a serious candidate at RBR imo.

I don't really have much qualms about Riccy but lets not pretend he's some bastion of mental fortitude. He was a shell of his former upbeat self during his Mclaren run.

Dans endured a hell of alot of pressure in the past and rarely loses his cool or bins the car. He is alot better mentally than his time at McLaren now and happy at Vcarb and generally with the car. He's stated this numerous times.

[runningmanz]

They are not putting Lawson straight into RBR. His gap to Yuki was more than Dan for a start. A good analysis was done on another forum about it which I can include here . Dans average qualli gap was barely over a tenth vs Yuki before Silverstone. His peak results are higher too in 3x 4th and 1x5th.

Lawson while decent is largely unproven and imo overhyped. Dan is a known quantity, is a safe pair of hands unlike Perez and likes a similar car to Max. It makes sense he is the main driver in the frame.

Yuki's Honda connection and questionable ability to withstand extreme pressure mentally and lack of experience in a top team vs a guy like DR who also has good car feedback and development skills means he isn't a serious candidate at RBR imo.

Daniel hasn’t liked a single car since 2021. When Max leaves, does Daniel have the potential to take his place? No. They should already be looking to the future to see how much potential Lawson is carrying.

The Macca was an anomaly and an odd handling car originally designed for Alonso unique driving style. In general he seems happy with the Vcarb overall. Obviously currently last race the car has regressed a bit for both guys actually and Dan had car issues to fix before the race. Before that he was progressing well. See what they bring for Hungary.

Throwing Lawson in green vs Max is a recipe for disaster for his career. We saw what happened to others like that. RB or another midfield team is a safer initial bet. Dan fills the gap at the moment as a good replacement for Perez then depending on how he goes and what happens with Max they can work in a younger driver with more experience from there.

[Wouter]

Honda will celebrate the 60th anniversary of their debut in Formula 1 at Goodwood.
Yuki gets the honor of driving the RA272.

[djos]

Honda will celebrate the 60th anniversary of their debut in Formula 1 at Goodwood.
Yuki gets the honor of driving the RA272.

Nice, now that is a classic F1 car!

[djos]

In sillier news, I came across this advert today and found it amusing.

[Wouter]

Honda will celebrate the 60th anniversary of their debut in Formula 1 at Goodwood.
Yuki gets the honor of driving the RA272.

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Nice, now that is a classic F1 car!

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Yes, indeed. Max drove it in 2019. He loved it!
Former Jordan, BAR and Honda pilot Sato then joined Max for some fun on the tarmac with the RB7 and RA272 side by side.


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[Jurgen von Diaz]

They are not putting Lawson straight into RBR. His gap to Yuki was more than Dan for a start. A good analysis was done on another forum about it which I can include here . Dans average qualli gap was barely over a tenth vs Yuki before Silverstone. His peak results are higher too in 3x 4th and 1x5th.

Lawson while decent is largely unproven and imo overhyped. Dan is a known quantity, is a safe pair of hands unlike Perez and likes a similar car to Max. It makes sense he is the main driver in the frame.

Yuki's Honda connection and questionable ability to withstand extreme pressure mentally and lack of experience in a top team vs a guy like DR who also has good car feedback and development skills means he isn't a serious candidate at RBR imo.

Daniel hasn’t liked a single car since 2021. When Max leaves, does Daniel have the potential to take his place? No. They should already be looking to the future to see how much potential Lawson is carrying.

The Macca was an anomaly and an odd handling car originally designed for Alonso unique driving style. In general he seems happy with the Vcarb overall. Obviously currently last race the car has regressed a bit for both guys actually and Dan had car issues to fix before the race. Before that he was progressing well. See what they bring for Hungary.

Throwing Lawson in green vs Max is a recipe for disaster for his career. We saw what happened to others like that. RB or another midfield team is a safer initial bet. Dan fills the gap at the moment as a good replacement for Perez then depending on how he goes and what happens with Max they can work in a younger driver with more experience from there.

When Max leaves, they are probably going to go shopping for a replacement. Checo's replacement should be Tsunoda. They shouldn't fall for de Vries's effect anymore: "Daniel drove to the front row with Max's car." — test. He went to Toro Rosso, and there's no such magic. Red Bull is playing with pure guesswork; they are considering giving him a promotion or sacking him, and that tells us a lot; even Red Bull itself isn't sure what he is capable of.

[Wouter]

Daniel Ricciardo frustrated: "Hopefully we'll find a huge hole in the car!"

Formula 1 driver Daniel Ricciardo cannot explain his current form and is completely in the dark in his analysis of the British Grand Prix

(Motorsport-Total.com) - Daniel Ricciardo has no explanation for his current form in the 2024 Formula 1 season. After finishing 13th in the 2024 British Grand Prix at Silverstone, the Racing Bulls driver is at a loss.

What's more, Ricciardo is practising gallows humor when he says: "Hopefully we'll find a big hole in my car that we've missed so far, but which turns out to be the reason why we were really slow."

Because not much came together for Ricciardo at Silverstone: P15 in qualifying, seven tenths behind teammate Yuki Tsunoda, and outside the top 10 in the race, although Tsunoda still finished in the points in tenth place with the VCARB 01.

"Yuki did well," says Ricciardo appreciatively. "But as a team we weren't very competitive this weekend. I certainly struggled more in the race. And so far I'm not sure why that was."

Ricciardo says that his cockpit perspective does not match the values on the stopwatch. At Silverstone, for example, he "felt he put in a good lap". "But my engineer told me I was eight tenths of a second behind. I was quite surprised." And Ricciardo has not yet received and/or found an answer to his questions.

"My engineer once asked me: 'What are you missing? What do you need?' Then I said: 'Actually, the balance is fine. I just don't think we have enough downforce. Because the laps themselves are pretty good, apart from a few minor things perhaps. But just what the car can do.
"So something was missing," says Ricciardo. "Maybe we didn't get it right in the set-up. Maybe there's still something we don't understand yet."

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[Bill]

Daniel hasn’t liked a single car since 2021. When Max leaves, does Daniel have the potential to take his place? No. They should already be looking to the future to see how much potential Lawson is carrying.

The Macca was an anomaly and an odd handling car originally designed for Alonso unique driving style. In general he seems happy with the Vcarb overall. Obviously currently last race the car has regressed a bit for both guys actually and Dan had car issues to fix before the race. Before that he was progressing well. See what they bring for Hungary.

Throwing Lawson in green vs Max is a recipe for disaster for his career. We saw what happened to others like that. RB or another midfield team is a safer initial bet. Dan fills the gap at the moment as a good replacement for Perez then depending on how he goes and what happens with Max they can work in a younger driver with more experience from there.

When Max leaves, they are probably going to go shopping for a replacement. Checo's replacement should be Tsunoda. They shouldn't fall for de Vries's effect anymore: "Daniel drove to the front row with Max's car." — test. He went to Toro Rosso, and there's no such magic. Red Bull is playing with pure guesswork; they are considering giving him a promotion or sacking him, and that tells us a lot; even Red Bull itself isn't sure what he is capable of.

i would like to see what yuki can do in a quick car.at the start of season and last year he was capable of outqualifying and beating one of the mercedes on odd races.now merc is winning races it shows the importance of having good car or upgrade.

[Bill]

He tested last year car at silverstone and was almost as fast as verstappen.

yes we should believe anything redbull tell us.no one ever saw the results of those test.

Do you ever have anything positive to say? Every post of yours contains nothing but sour grapes, half baked conspiracy theories, and negativity towards Daniel!

How about acknowledging the positive influence that Daniel has had on both Yuki and the team? They have certainly made it clear that Daniel’s contributions have been significant and positive.

F1T is a forum that values facts, if you want to post wild claims, why not join the autosport forums?

redbull denied that there was political infighting before,but eventually the truth was revealed.the teams always give politically correct answers so anything they say should be taken with a grain of salt.f1 is about metrics so if we havent seen those magic numbers why should we believe anything Horner says.

[djos]

yes we should believe anything redbull tell us.no one ever saw the results of those test.

Do you ever have anything positive to say? Every post of yours contains nothing but sour grapes, half baked conspiracy theories, and negativity towards Daniel!

How about acknowledging the positive influence that Daniel has had on both Yuki and the team? They have certainly made it clear that Daniel’s contributions have been significant and positive.

F1T is a forum that values facts, if you want to post wild claims, why not join the autosport forums?

redbull denied that there was political infighting before,but eventually the truth was revealed.the teams always give politically correct answers so anything they say should be taken with a grain of salt.f1 is about metrics so if we havent seen those magic numbers why should we believe anything Horner says.

It wasn’t just Horner, Marko was involved in the decision to bring Daniel back after the Silverstone test.

[Jurgen von Diaz]

Do you ever have anything positive to say? Every post of yours contains nothing but sour grapes, half baked conspiracy theories, and negativity towards Daniel!

How about acknowledging the positive influence that Daniel has had on both Yuki and the team? They have certainly made it clear that Daniel’s contributions have been significant and positive.

F1T is a forum that values facts, if you want to post wild claims, why not join the autosport forums?

redbull denied that there was political infighting before,but eventually the truth was revealed.the teams always give politically correct answers so anything they say should be taken with a grain of salt.f1 is about metrics so if we havent seen those magic numbers why should we believe anything Horner says.

It wasn’t just Horner, Marko was involved in the decision to bring Daniel back after the Silverstone test.

Marko said that Horner was right about De Vries, so I guess it was Horner's turn to make a decision after Marko and Verstappen suggested putting their hands in the pile of poop with De Vries. Alongside Ricciardo, the other candidates were Lawson and Mick Schumacher. If I remember correctly, it was Horner's idea to hire Ricciardo as a reserve driver, so essentially he is his man.

[Wouter]

Today Liam Lawson is driving the RB20 on the Silverstone circuit during a filmingday, to see how he performs.

Lawson's Red Bull test: How it compares to decisive Ricciardo run
Jul 10, 2024

Liam Lawson is preparing for a first test in Red Bull’s 2024 Formula 1 car on Thursday that has drawn comparisons to Daniel Ricciardo’s decisive run last year, amid the prospect of another mid-season driver swap.

Whatever Lawson does in the RB20 outing, it will not be his last chance to impress before the end of the month.

Perez has two races to rectify his situation, or at least put his best foot forward, before the summer break.
Lawson’s test in the AlphaTauri AT03 is scheduled for the week after the Belgian Grand Prix, at Imola, so by the end of July,
Red Bull will have all the data required across Perez, Lawson and Ricciardo to make a decision.

And the timing is relevant given Lawson’s contract is believed to have a 2025 option on Red Bull’s side that expires in September -
so if it does not give him a race seat for next year by then, he will be a free agent.
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https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/liam ... -it-means/