2024 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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Hopefully Aston sorts itself out this session. The more at the front the merrier!
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I was watching Mclaren's onboard and OH MY GOD, could be illusion but, that front wing looks A LOT OF FLEXIBLE. A LOT, so much more than others.

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I noticed from Alonso's onboard that the front wing angle is way less aggressive today compared to yesterday. Yesterday it didn't go below the halo looking from the camera at the end of the strait, but on his last run just now, it was almost as low as that in the slow corners.

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Rikrikrik wrote:
20 Jul 2024, 13:17
I was watching Mclaren's onboard and OH MY GOD, could be illusion but, that front wing looks A LOT OF FLEXIBLE. A LOT, so much more than others.
Mclaren and Mercedes Front wings flex A LOT

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krich wrote:
20 Jul 2024, 13:22
Rikrikrik wrote:
20 Jul 2024, 13:17
I was watching Mclaren's onboard and OH MY GOD, could be illusion but, that front wing looks A LOT OF FLEXIBLE. A LOT, so much more than others.
Mclaren and Mercedes Front wings flex A LOT
Yeah that new Merc wing is really flimsy

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FNTC wrote:
20 Jul 2024, 13:20
I noticed from Alonso's onboard that the front wing angle is way less aggressive today compared to yesterday. Yesterday it didn't go below the halo looking from the camera at the end of the strait, but on his last run just now, it was almost as low as that in the slow corners.
An now on his run on softs the wing is higher again

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9 tenths:(

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I think the Yellow flag by Hamilton happened just as Alonso was on his first hot lap on the Softs

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I was correct, Alonso had done sector 1 when sector 2 yellow came out, on his second hot lap he was 2 tenths down in the first sector, so potentially he has more speed and might of been about half a second down instead of .9

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Lance got the upgraded car?

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Nothing learnt from Silverstone, have they? Just get the car out a little earlier

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It seem time that the team needs to understand new parts has now passed
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RacePaceDemon wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 20:14
peewon wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 19:52
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19 Jul 2024, 14:27


Well a lot of your examples were based on post 22 regs so I don't see the winning for 8 years relevance here. And remember, after Ferrari were busted with their illegal engine, it was all dealt with behind closed doors. A bit more suspicious if you ask me. And it's red bull who have likely instigated this investigation into flexi wings.

I'm happy to listen to theories on this but I don't think you really have any solid evidence to back your claims. Only a whistleblower would have any validity.
I've laid out number of clear examples of favouritism. All of them cannot be simply a product of chance. And Like I said, they can't have them winning every year. And even in the new regs, the ride height directive is as clear an example of favouritism as there can be. Only one team on the grid wanted it.

I think most people are uncomfortable with corruption and therefore conspiracies because it's easier to digest the world as fair and merit based.
The ride height TD was done to limit the porpoising issue that drivers had been complaining about and also to stop flexi floor cheating (the bigger conspiracy)

Here are some articles where non Mercedes drivers complain about the bouncing which the TD aimed to help:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/61809406.amp - Bottas

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/68491352 - The WORLD CHAMPION CAR DRIVER Verstappen

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/magnu ... p/9364542/ - Kevin Magnussen

https://racingnews365.com/gasly-reveals ... er-in-2022 - Gasly

As you can see many other drivers seemed to agree with the technical directive. I'll be awaiting some proof for your conspiracies :wink:
Complaining about porpoising isnt the same as wanting a technical directive to change it. By the time TD came about, most teams had fixed their propoising issues barring Mercedes and the odd bumpy track for other teams. It was pretty obvious from the Team Principals meeting after Baku that no other team wanted it mandated by a TD. Ive already mentioned multiple instances which show a pattern of bias. One or two things can be coincidental but not 7-8. You can lead the horse to the well but you cant make it drink if it doesn't want to.

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Both in Q3; so far so good

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Nicely done by Fernando and Lance to get into Q3- I didn’t think that was on the cards today but the car was tidy.

A breakthrough at last?

Or is it just hiding a high speed weakness here?