future of ferrari

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jaslfc
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future of ferrari

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2005 is a season to forget for shumy.. what do u guys think of their chances next year? i have a feeling that they will be back in front next year..being shumys' last year and all..some motivation to repay the services of their most succesfull driver ever!!

DaveKillens
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I don't think Ferrari will enjoy easy dominance, or anything close to that. One factor that is directly proportional to success is the budget. It takes money to go fast, and a lot more money to go faster.
I have heard that Ferrari can't expect the budget they enjoyed in the last few years. And with this year's dismal preformance, and the impending new V-8 rule, they have to budget for keeping the '05 effort respectable, as well as develop what is basically a new car. That takes a whole lot of money. One sign that Ferrari may be looking for extra cash is the just released news that Abu Dhabi paid Ferrari $138 million to secure a 5% interest in the company.
http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=94008
One question is whether Ferrari has given up on securing any titles, or if they even want to spend money on this year's budget, or to allocate it to the '06 buget.
And while this is going on in Ferrari, other teams like Toyota and Honda are probably going to take the '06 title seriously, and open up their wallets. And since Renault is enjoying success, they too will probably have a nice, healthy amount of cash to stay competitive.
Being competitive in racing is a race to stay ahead, or at least, keep up. Once you are behind the game, it is hard to catch up without extra effort.
And I honestly question whether Shu will stay after this season. He doesn't have many years remaining, and '06 is very questionable, I am sure Ferrari cannot guarantee him any kind of decent car, they can only shrug their shoulders and tell him, "We're doing the best we can".

DaveKillens
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Well, it appears my speculation was going in the correct direction.
Development of Ferrari's 2005 car has basically now stopped, technical director Ross Brawn says. With the Hockenheim bodywork kit now up and running, the Briton told Autosport that 'that's it' until the V8 F2006.
http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=94104
So the money is now budgeted for next year, in a serious attempt to become competitive again. My interpretation is that Shu will now stay on next season.

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Well the qualifying session was pretty interesting today.

I know MS is probably on a lower fuel load but I honestly dont think he is 3 stopping! The team (and Michael) seemed very shocked by the result which is something I wouldnt have expected if they were seriosuly light on fuel.

Ross said today:

“We’re trying to understand what’s going on. It’s seems here that what we found at the test last week has translated into performance at the track.

“But we still have to fully understand it. I mean, I’ll openly say that we don’t completely understand why this tyre is so good here today.

“But once we do, then we’re going to move forward.”

I think this is going to be a turning point for Ferrari this season. Michael is going to win tomorrow and fingers crossed he will eat into Fernandos lead for a showdown at the last few races. :D

DaveKillens
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Peter Sauber pulled the cat from the bag when he said it is now 'too late' for BMW to retain Felipe Massa for next year. The Swiss boss, therefore, all but confirmed the young Brazilian's 2006 departure to Ferrari, to replace a BAR-Honda bound Rubens Barrichello.
http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=94514
Further speculation has Ferrari wooing Kimi away from McLaren in '07.
Does anyone think Shu isn't going to retire after next season? If not sooner?

jaslfc
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i think shumy is goin to retire at the end of next year.. he is goin to come back next season and try to retire in a high!!

DaveKillens
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Planet F1 has just reported that Ferrari have officially confirmed that Reubens Barrichello will depart at the end of this season
http://www.planetf1.com/news/story_20556.shtml
Silly season is now here, this is going to be good.

As a side note, one rumor I heard is that DC is in talks with Ferrari. The scenario is this.... if Shu suddenly quits, DC could fill the seat for one year, as a mature and competent driver. Then hopefully, Ferrari will have secured Kimi in '07, and then there will be the combination of Kimi and Massa.

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I, honestly, can't see DC in Ferrari. Yes, he had proven himself this year, but I don't think that Ferrari is out to get his services. Besides, DC already has a seat with Red Bull for '06.

I can see Kimi in Ferrari in '07, although I can't see Ron Dennis letting him go without a fight. Massa in Ferrari in '07? Why don't we wait and see how he does next year.

As far as MS's retirement goes, I don't think it will happen this year. Him I see as a man who definitely wants things to end on a positive note, so I'm pretty sure that he will be with Ferrari in '06.

Finally, as far as Ferrari as a team is concerned, I'm pretty sure that this season had been a wake-up call for them. They are good, and they can still stay at the top (No.1), but they've got to get rid of their ego.

Cheers

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and why is ferrari still testing at monza with luca??? :shock:

i thought there is a 3-week testing ban for ALL the teams? or is ferrari on a league of their own?... i don't care if their cars are struggling for grip and speed. A BAN IS A BAN!

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The other teams do not test through choice. It is a gentlemans agreement between nine teams that Ferrari never agreed to. I wonder if the other teams would have agreed to limit their testing if they had two test tracks. I doubt it!
"Whether you think you can or can't, either way you are right."
-Henry Ford-

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Ferrari did agree with the testing ban untill this year. when all the other teams agreed to limit testing, Ferrari refused and startred testing whenever they pleased. even testing on the same days as the GP's:twisted: . i just wish that the FIA would pass a rule that limited everyones testing that way no one would have any advantage :roll:

DaveKillens
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Ever hear the expression "Nice guys finish last"?
Well, that also applies to racing. Ferrari and Bridgestone found themselves on the losing end this year, because basically Bridgestones are developed exclusively for Ferrari. Yea, a couple other teams also use Bridgestones, but they have to accept what they are offered.
So the decision makers at Ferrari decide to ignore the gentleman's agreement in an effort to improve, and get back to their winning ways. Todt doesn't hold his position because he's a nice guy, Todt's approach is to win at any cost. Even at the risk of negative fan feedback. And sadly, the honest truth is that wins are the best way to get fans, and thus, lucrative sponsorships.
Personally, I have no support or sympathy for either Ferrari or Bridgestone, they are the victims of their own policies, not the rules.

ashvin
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Ferrari are goin to be Back!!!

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Ferrari can never ever be pushovers in Formula One.They Are and will remain a challenging yet unpredictable force in the years to come.

All the people who are writing Ferrari Off for this and many other seasons to come Should realise the fact that they are the most dependable team to back for any Race Calender.

That Ferraris Dominance although diluted this season,writing them Off in this Sport can be disastrous.

They Are the team to watch out for next season cause they will come out with all guns firing.

Notwithstanding the dominance of one man michael schumacher,u believe that its still not his time to leave racing.hes got a couple of years in racing and may be more.

This Seasons disaster for ferrari is due to poor performance by the bridgestone tyres and not entirely due to the car or the engine!.So All You Ferrari Fans out there!.our team requires our Support!.
Wishing Ferrari and MS a glorious season next Year!.

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Re: Ferrari are goin to be Back!!!

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ashvin wrote:...They Are the team to watch out for next season cause they will come out with all guns firing...
Yeah, but after another 20 years of misery :mrgreen: \:D/ :D

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Re: Ferrari are goin to be Back!!!

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ashvin wrote:Ferrari can never ever be pushovers in Formula One.They Are and will remain a challenging yet unpredictable force in the years to come.

All the people who are writing Ferrari Off for this and many other seasons to come Should realise the fact that they are the most dependable team to back for any Race Calender.

That Ferraris Dominance although diluted this season,writing them Off in this Sport can be disastrous.

They Are the team to watch out for next season cause they will come out with all guns firing.

Notwithstanding the dominance of one man michael schumacher,u believe that its still not his time to leave racing.hes got a couple of years in racing and may be more.

This Seasons disaster for ferrari is due to poor performance by the bridgestone tyres and not entirely due to the car or the engine!.So All You Ferrari Fans out there!.our team requires our Support!.
Wishing Ferrari and MS a glorious season next Year!.
How are Ferrari going to beat the might of teams like Mclaren in the post Schumy era? Surely they will lose Schumy, Ross & Todt at the same time - the genius of Bryne is (I think) pretty well gone. Although McLaren have had some fallow years, I think they have set the standard for 20years now, dragging other teams in their wake.