So he did have to overtake cars?
Honestly, you are just proving my point.
Ive seen a 50k fine for touching 1 car before. Thats a 100k there
Account created a week ago and your entire feed is bashing Lewis and calling him a fool while praising Max and Russel, despite describing yourself as a "big Lewis fan". Troll
I'm not getting into the Lewis v George stuff but its very obvious the people who jump in here to just hate on a driver, their contributions to this thread are being negative to one driver and nothing else
So you do think that Russell is so bad that Hamilton should be faster than him while overtaking cars on a streetcircuit than in clear air? That's a bold take, Cotton.
I'm always curious about the motivation. It's clear Russell has the chops to be a WDC and Hamilton being relatively strong competition is only good for Russel as beating him actually means something (see Verstappen for the downside of only beating paperweights). So it can't be that they are Russell fans. So, are they Verstappen fans still burning years after the FIA had to rig the WDC so their man could win? Do they hate 'upstarts' from a relatively poor background (there ismoften a ven overlap in their views about Ocon)? Or is there something they might dislike thats unique to Hamilton amongst all the other drivers? It's curious.Luscion wrote: ↑22 Sep 2024, 20:52I'm not getting into the Lewis v George stuff but its very obvious the people who jump in here to just hate on a driver, their contributions to this thread are being negative to one driver and nothing else
My numbers are just fine, Hamilton had a two second gap to Russell when he boxed, when Russell boxed he came out 3.5 secs ahead of Hamilton, so he lost 5.5 secs to the overcut.Wynters wrote: ↑22 Sep 2024, 20:57So you do think that Russell is so bad that Hamilton should be faster than him while overtaking cars on a streetcircuit than in clear air? That's a bold take, Cotton.
Also, I can't be bothered scrolling back through the main feed but the race highlights suggest that the gap on lap 30 was only 4.6 seconds, not the 5.5 you so authoritativly claim. Are you just making up numbers or was Hamilton a second faster than Russell, on already dying old Hards?
Happy to take your word for it. It's an irrelevant aside to the point at hand. I actually expect cars having to overtake (and make tyre life last longer) to be slower. An outlandish position, I realise.
I'm talking about the hate Russell gets too btw, But yea its obvious who just jump in here to hate and criticizeWynters wrote: ↑22 Sep 2024, 21:09I'm always curious about the motivation. It's clear Russell has the chops to be a WDC and Hamilton being relatively strong competition is only good for Russel as beating him actually means something (see Verstappen for the downside of only beating paperweights). So it can't be that they are Russell fans. So, are they Verstappen fans still burning years after the FIA had to rig the WDC so their man could win? Do they hate 'upstarts' from a relatively poor background (there ismoften a ven overlap in their views about Ocon)? Or is there something they might dislike thats unique to Hamilton amongst all the other drivers? It's curious.
I was referring to Hamilton's statistical performance as head-and-shoulders the most successful F1 driver of all time. Why bring someone's race into this, something entirely irrelevant to their skills as a driver and their likability? It's an odd call...
Agreed, and equally illogical when it is directed at George who has more than won his spurs, frankly. It is a genuine shame as there is a great deal of interesting stuff from looking at both of them extracting competitve yet different performances from the same platform. And it gets completely lost and actively discouraged under the deluge of rubbish.
Here, I fixed it for you. Thank me later.DRS wrote: ↑22 Sep 2024, 21:24Rosberg gets hate because he is the strongest challenge Hamilton has faced since Alonso.Luscion wrote: ↑22 Sep 2024, 21:20I'm talking about the hate Russell gets too btw, But yea its obvious who just jump in here to hate and criticizeWynters wrote: ↑22 Sep 2024, 21:09I'm always curious about the motivation. It's clear Russell has the chops to be a WDC and Hamilton being relatively strong competition is only good for Russel as beating him actually means something (see Verstappen for the downside of only beating paperweights). So it can't be that they are Russell fans. So, are they Verstappen fans still burning years after the FIA had to rig the WDC so their man could win? Do they hate 'upstarts' from a relatively poor background (there ismoften a ven overlap in their views about Ocon)? Or is there something they might dislike thats unique to Hamilton amongst all the other drivers? It's curious.
Given your grasp of physics, I maybe wouldn't try and speak for everyone. But it's not the first surprisingly bold call you've made today. You go on defining Hamilton by his race rather than his myriad achievements and a big 'Thank you' for proving my points so effectively.DRS wrote: ↑22 Sep 2024, 21:23Yes, sure you were, we all believe you.
Russell: After a very difficult Friday, we would have likely taken P4 in the Grand Prix. Our pace in Qualifying however made us believe we could achieve more. Today was no doubt a difficult race for us, both challenging in terms of our pace but also physically. The McLarens were very impressive and in another league to us, whilst Max (Verstappen) had the legs on us. We were able to hold off the Ferrari of Charles (Leclerc) in the closing stages, so it was very much an evening of damage limitation. Given the pace of the car, that was the very best we could have achieved.
We have a lot of work to do in the coming weeks to understand why we’ve struggled to challenge at the front in the past few races. We haven’t been as competitive since the summer break and that is frustrating. We will work hard to get on top of it though and hopefully the updates we bring to the next race in Austin will help us take a step closer to the front.
Hamilton: It is hard to describe the range of emotions you feel when we have a difficult race like that. This year continues to be a testing one for everyone, but we are all pushing as hard as we can. We don’t always get things right and that was the case today with our strategy. We all head into the weekend, and every decision we take, with the right intentions and sometimes it doesn’t work out. It can be frustrating, but we are all in this together.
We have lost some form to the leaders in the past few races and we’re working hard to figure out why that is. We will do what we do best though and that is to come together as a team, analyse and refocus ahead of Austin. We will head there with energy, drive, and determination. It’s another opportunity to show what we can do when we get things right and to hopefully take a step forward with the car.
Toto: That was a really painful evening for us. P4 and P6 is not a good result after starting P3 and P4. Our strategy decisions in the race were determined by our experiences in the past here where track position is crucial. We thought that the Soft tyre would give Lewis an advantage at the start but that turned out to be the wrong decision. With our challenges managing the rear surfaces, we went backwards. Overtaking proved possible, contrary to previous races here where it has been more processional, and in hindsight we should have started him on the Medium.
It doesn’t hide the fact though that we were too slow today. We are struggling at the moment with tracks that are hot and demanding on traction, like here and Baku, but that is no excuse. It is difficult for us to accept but we must do and find a way to improve. We now look ahead to Austin where we will have an update coming and we hope that will move us forward.
https://www.mercedesamgf1.com/reports/d ... ngapore-gpShovlin: Our pace was ultimately poor today and that made for an incredibly challenging evening. Having qualified within a couple of tenths of Norris and Verstappen, we anticipated being able to race for the podium. That shaped our decision to start on the Soft compound with Lewis as we looked to make up ground on the opening lap. Unfortunately, with our lack of pace and struggles to control the rear tyre temperatures, that proved the incorrect decision and left him in for a tough race.
It was very much a case of a defensive strategy and race for George. We had to pick our battles, and it was clear that we didn’t have the speed to be in a fight with the McLaren of Oscar Piastri. He was much faster and, with a tyre advantage, was always going to get through. George did well to hold off the hard-charging Ferrari of Leclerc and limit the damage.
We’ve now got the opportunity over the next few weeks to analyse and understand what happened to our pace today. We had moments over the weekend where we were competitive, so we know there is inherent pace in the car. We will also be bringing an update package to the car at the next race and we hope that can bring us closer to the fight at the front.