2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[Vanja #66]

Both Red Bull and McLaren appeared weaker in the race than they truly were. At the start, Max had to take a lot from his tyres to cover Sainz (who also took a lot from his Mediums) and this compromised his first stint a bit. Then on Hards, seeing he'll have Norris on fresher Hards in the final few laps, I imagine he backed down and saved them to avoid going off the cliff while fighting. As for McLaren, I guess seeing how the Sprint went with suffering on Mediums and dropping to P4 for Lando they decided to drop the pace early on and extend the stint to have as much pace as possible to fight Max later on.

At worst, I think Max was 0.1s behind Leclerc in realistic pace, while realistically I think if he got the lead in T1 he would have won if he and GP wanted to win and not simply cover Norris

[avantman]

2 moderators: please move the post above (which looks more like a stand-up performance rather than serious post) to "Scuderia Ferrari F1 team" thread. It was posted in this thread clearly by mistake.

[Vettel165]

AMuS got some information on that part - its another setup change they made due to the high deg on the rear tires in the sprint. Therefore they made some adjustments (overreaction according to Dr. Marko) to reduce the load on the rear tires, which led to understeer. They tried the front wing adjustment during the stop, but it didnt help to fix it. It got even worse on hards.

Source: https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... -mclaren//

It feels like they still need to find the ultimate answer regarding stability and drive ability - but they are heading into the right direction.
Looking forward to Mexico with more time to dial in and it will be interesting to see our efficiency with the high altitude up there.

[Wouter]

Why didn't Lando got a penalty for the 4th and 5th tracklimit? Three are allowed.
They allowed the 5th because he (had to) overake outside the track but how about the 4th??

[SharkY]

Why didn't Lando got a penalty for the 4th and 5th tracklimit? Three are allowed.
They allowed the 5th because he (had to) overake outside the track but how about the 4th??

No. 39 wasn't track limits violation. They deleted this lap, because he breached the track limits on the last turn of the previous lap.

[Wouter]

Why didn't Lando got a penalty for the 4th and 5th tracklimit? Three are allowed.
They allowed the 5th because he (had to) overake outside the track but how about the 4th??

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No. 39 wasn't track limits violation. They deleted this lap, because he breached the track limits on the last turn of the previous lap.

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Well, round 38 was the fourth time but NO penalty at all! How come?

[Vanja #66]

Well, round 38 was the fourth time but NO penalty at all! How come?

Case number 36 is T12 at Lap 52 with Max which was a deleted lap by default, but it wasn't considered his fault due to the incident so it didn't count as a strike

[marcel171281]

Why didn't Lando got a penalty for the 4th and 5th tracklimit? Three are allowed.
They allowed the 5th because he (had to) overake outside the track but how about the 4th??

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No. 39 wasn't track limits violation. They deleted this lap, because he breached the track limits on the last turn of the previous lap.

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Well, round 38 was the fourth time but NO penalty at all! How come?

The 3rd in this list was when he overtook outside the track. So they probably didn't count it as track limit seperately. The 4th and the 5th are the same.. So number 1, 2 and 4 are counted and that is when he got the black and white flag. After that there was no track limit violation.

I know you are a Max fan (as am I), but is was 3, not 4 or 5.

[Sieper]

Why wouldn’t overtaking outside of the track count for track limits. I mean….

[organic]

Why wouldn’t overtaking outside of the track count for track limits. I mean….

It's in the decision document. They mentioned that the track limit was discounted as he was forced wide (the same reason why the penalty was reduced from 10 to 5s)

[Wouter]

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No. 39 wasn't track limits violation. They deleted this lap, because he breached the track limits on the last turn of the previous lap.

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Well, round 38 was the fourth time but NO penalty at all! How come?

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The 3rd in this list was when he overtook outside the track. So they probably didn't count it as track limit seperately. The 4th and the 5th are the same.. So number 1, 2 and 4 are counted and that is when he got the black and white flag. After that there was no track limit violation.

I know you are a Max fan (as am I), but is was 3, not 4 or 5.

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I am neither a Max fan nor a Lando fan. I think Max is an incredible talent and (one of) the best driver(s) of all time,
but Lando is also a very good driver, but lacks the necessary experience and will never be as good as Max.
Doesn't matter to me who wins. So far Max is driving a lot better, even in a worse car.

[pantherxxx]

Initially Red Bull wanted to introduce a bigger aero upgrade package in Austin, but because it was only one FP1 session, I think they postponed the big upgrade. If they can bring that to Mexico and further improve their car, I think Verstappen will win.

[PapayaFan481]

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@Wazari a few years ago and he explaned why it wasn't there anymore.
BTW, @Wazari wasn't on the forum since last April. I hope everything is ok with him.

As I understand it, he left because people were questioning him over things that, frankly, we're not even remotely in doubt. He had proven himself to be a reliable source multiple times, but a small number of posters wanted to try and prove that they knew better every single time he posted.

[PapayaFan481]

The persistence by Sky that Lando is actually a title rival hasn't played out in reality. The gap in points increased after Miami. Lando has had the car to close up for 14 rounds now. Max is easily champion even just by bringing it home in the top 5.

The points per race needed to overhaul him is going to jump significantly now after every round that Lando doesn't meet the minimum, which currently is win every race with Max no higher than 4th.

It's not just Sky, many outlets have, because they have to try and generate excitement and interest to get people engaged on their platform.

I strongly suspect in the next couple of races they'll suddenly turn their attention to McLaren vs Ferrari for the WDC since Red Bull seem to have thrown the towel in on that one.

[Cassius]

Initially Red Bull wanted to introduce a bigger aero upgrade package in Austin, but because it was only one FP1 session, I think they postponed the big upgrade. If they can bring that to Mexico and further improve their car, I think Verstappen will win.

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