2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

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Another problem for me is that both drivers loose their confidence with this kind of behavior from the car.
Russell is younger ok he risks more but this situation must be resolved soon.

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bluechris wrote:
21 Oct 2024, 18:48
Another problem for me is that both drivers loose their confidence with this kind of behavior from the car.
Russell is younger ok he risks more but this situation must be resolved soon.
The team will be able to compare the packages back to back in Mexico since only one of drivers will have them equipped. There will be 3 FP
sessions too, so maybe they can dial out some of the potential problems. What surprised me the most, is that they haven’t developed the diffuser further apart from slimming down the rear keel/crash structure and adding the two bulges on each top corner. No surface/roof profiling or anything. That 1 year knowledge gap is showing..
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Earlier this year (although not officially confirmed yet), Antonelli was announced to replace Hamilton for FP1 in Mexico, and FP2 is a tire test session, so there may actually not be too much time to really evaluate things.

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search wrote:
22 Oct 2024, 13:52
Earlier this year (although not officially confirmed yet), Antonelli was announced to replace Hamilton for FP1 in Mexico, and FP2 is a tire test session, so there may actually not be too much time to really evaluate things.
- Formula 1 extends practice session in Mexico: FP2 to last 90 minutes

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Lasssept wrote:
22 Oct 2024, 15:15
search wrote:
22 Oct 2024, 13:52
Earlier this year (although not officially confirmed yet), Antonelli was announced to replace Hamilton for FP1 in Mexico, and FP2 is a tire test session, so there may actually not be too much time to really evaluate things.
- Formula 1 extends practice session in Mexico: FP2 to last 90 minutes
yes, with 2025 tires, and a run plan provided by Pirelli. No DRS, no setup adjustments etc.

Only drivers that didn't do FP1 are allowed to do normal practice stuff for the final 30 minutes.

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16 october
There's an information that Kimi Antonelli crashed Mercedes during #F1 tests yesterday in Abu Dhabi
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https://x.com/Stiv4F1/status/1846558615169114433
https://x.com/SamiEyidilli/status/1846920201889354172
https://x.com/Space_of_Cars/status/1846259241482321962

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- Antonelli to drive Hamilton's Mercedes in first practice for Mexican GP

https://x.com/ErikvHaren/status/1849010 ... -Rjjg&s=19

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Lasssept wrote:
23 Oct 2024, 11:32
- Antonelli to drive Hamilton's Mercedes in first practice for Mexican GP

https://x.com/ErikvHaren/status/1849010 ... -Rjjg&s=19
I wonder whether the update package will be transferred to RUS?

At least it’s not so dire this wkend for penalties if there’s damage.
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Surprised you don’t have to field 2 different young drivers.
Or how it works with them having a seat for next year

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chrisc90 wrote:
23 Oct 2024, 12:45
Surprised you don’t have to field 2 different young drivers.
Or how it works with them having a seat for next year
Antonelli will even still count as a young driver for his first race in 2025, so Mercedes only needs to field one next year. At least if the rules didn't change since Zhou did his rookie season for Sauber.

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Lasssept wrote:
23 Oct 2024, 11:32
- Antonelli to drive Hamilton's Mercedes in first practice for Mexican GP

https://x.com/ErikvHaren/status/1849010 ... -Rjjg&s=19
Don’t bin it again Kimi!

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Allison saying he doesnt think it was the upgrades that caused the spins in Austin but that they had the car too low, too stiff and the handling degraded because of it (8mins:45secs in). whole thing is worth a watch though



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Luscion wrote:
23 Oct 2024, 21:31
Allison saying he doesnt think it was the upgrades that caused the spins in Austin but that they had the car too low, too stiff and the handling degraded because of it (8mins:45secs in). whole thing is worth a watch though


It amazes me how they still couldn't figure out how to set up their cars efficiently compared to others. Hope the new simulation guy from Ferrari will help in this regard. (or they could have hired me as a data scientist/ml engineer, but it seems having a PhD from a top school is not enough for them :P )

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Luscion wrote:
23 Oct 2024, 21:31
Allison saying he doesnt think it was the upgrades that caused the spins in Austin but that they had the car too low, too stiff and the handling degraded because of it (8mins:45secs in). whole thing is worth a watch though



"It wasn't the upgrades, it's the way the upgrades need to be setup that made us fail". There's a sucker born every day. :lol:

If the updates only work when the car is low and stiff (as your simulation tools suggested would be best for the update), then the updates are actually the problem...
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It's hopeless at this point, they will throw the towel next year right away if they are smart and focus 100% on 2026 car. The level of bs they are telling themselves is stunning, even Binotto would give up by now and get everyone back to basics.

This team needs a deep cleansing of leadership, including Allison. They need to stop forcing updates as primary targets and prioritise driveability and wide working window for car and tyres alike. Toto has no understanding and experience of what actually makes a good car and him deciding how they set their targets is dragging the whole Brackley factory down.

Get Vowles back or even poach Stella as TP and hope it's not too late for 2026 team and chassis dev. Otherwise, McLaren will be the leading Merc-PU team and it won't even ve close with all the experience they are now gathering by fighting back at the top every weekend
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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